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Of these, I’d like to point out that unironically Uber is the obvious choice for Best. Hear me out…

Outside of the really big cities, taxi service was trash. You had to find a number and a phone, the price was almost impossible to figure out in advance, and none that I am aware of were doing anything to keep up with the times or improve anything. The competition that it hurt deserved some pain.
People can now paw drunkenly at their phone and generally arrive home safe. Easy access to rides has almost certainly saved lives. I don’t think you can say that about any of the others on the list.

But wait! I’m not saying that Uber is good. I’m just saying that, theoretically, you could start a service like Uber that isn’t hot garbage, that has employees or at least better paid contractors that take home a more reasonable share of the money. Hell, a local government could create a ride hailing app that passes the entire amount back to the driver, and it would be a net benefit to society. Though at that point, maybe they should have just been looking into better public transportation and planning instead.

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highenergyphysics@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
No Uber driver ever scammed me into paying double fare or refusing credit cards.

Uber is objectively a cancer upon society. They should legally employ their drives and pay a fair wage with prices to match.

All I’m saying is, it takes a real shitty industry for Uber to still be the better option. Every “innovation” in the picture is a complete joke and should never be used even for practical purposes, except Uber…

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- brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Every “innovation” in the picture…should never be used…except Uber
  
  It’s the holidays, there are a dozen(+) people in your family, and you want folks to fly in from out of state and have the kids play together in a living room while the adults cook together in a kitchen.
  
  VRBOs are sold out.
  
  Is Airbnb OK, if you respect the neighborhood (as best you can while still doing a short term rental)? If you rent from a family who happens to be out of town and not from a superhost with a hundred homes?
  
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  - ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Like with most things that are successful on this list, AirBNB isn’t inherently bad, and there’s no reason why you can’t hypothetically have an ethical, positive experience. But it followed the typical late-stage capitalist enshittification script, and to have that experience you have to fight through many many barriers erected by both the company and hosts to maximize profits.
    
    I’ve had some very nice experiences with AirBNB back when it was a startup, and when you were interacting with hosts who actually lived in the places you were staying. But at this point I’ve fully stopped using AirBNB and hotels are now a better, cheaper experience. AirBNB is just a nightmare of hidden/high fees, abusive corporate “hosts,” and AirBNB being absolutely, reliably unwilling to help mediate or solve any problems.
    
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  - eek2121@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Have you seen AirBnB pricing and some of the policies/fees the owners of properties have implemented? Cheaper to buy a camper.
    
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  - BagelEmbezzler@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Just from a logistical perspective, holiday cooking in an unfamiliar kitchen sounds like an absolute nightmare, especially with Airbnb where you’re at the mercy of the host for how well equipped it’ll be.
    
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  - Stretch2m@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    If you rent from a family who happens to be out of town and not from a superhost with a hundred homes?
    
    If there were some way to ensure this was the case, then I agree with you. As soon as you get people treating this as a business, it becomes a problem.
    
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cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I say this every time this comes up, Taxis are trash, the only reason they’re decent in big cities is because that’s the only place you’ve got real competition.

Everywhere else has a single company, at best, and a lot of the times it’s a one person LLC. Even my midsize city has a single person LLC taxi and Uber.

Uber the company is cancer, Uber the service (Or idea/concept whatever) was exactly what was needed. No more calling dispatch and being told “It’s just around the corner” for 3 hours or them realizing I’m not local and taking me the LONG way around or even just taking fucking card lmao

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- NatakuNox@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yes taxi companies were trash but Uber/ride shares forced them to evolve. Big city taxi companies now have all the same features as Uber. (route and price in advance, app for requesting a ride, info about your driver, safety features, card payment, and scheduling.) I’m now back to using taxi companies. The price is actually lower on busy days as they don’t surge charge anymore. I’ve actually become a “regular” at one taxi company and they know me and I know the drivers. That’s something that would never happen using Uber. The only time I use ride share is when I wasn’t able to plan ahead. (like when my car broke down, and I needed a ride asap.)
  
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  - Chailles@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Big city taxi companies now have all the same features as Uber
    
    But weren’t they saying above that big city taxi companies were basically the only decent taxi companies already? Them getting better doesn’t solve what Uber is providing an alternative for.
    
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    NatakuNox@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I honestly don’t know what qualifies as big. I guess the ones with the easiest phone number to remember or the ones with yellow in their name. I live in Denver so what counts as big here might not in NYC.
    
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Smoogs@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Enough people were pissed off at cabs that Uber took off. Instead of cabs looking inward to improve, they decided to act worse. I know Uber has room to improve but if that is the reaction from big cab, Cabs should be completely removed from society. Cabs were a complete fail.

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- orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That depends where you are. Many cab services have improved in various cities. Of course tech is a part of this. GPS helps avoid fraud. Uber didn’t invent that, but it helped advance implementation.
  
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  - Smoogs@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    One cab driver blackmailed my friend for money to return a phone to her she left in the back seat. One of my friends was threatened to be raped by one and busted her wrist to get away from them. I’ve been physically threatened by cab drivers who want to get sex from women they think are alone. they are protected by a union which is clearly corrupt. I been left out in the cold with a busted ankle. They wouldn’t even call an ambulance for me.
    
    So the last thing I want to hear is ‘depends on where you are’ cuz apathetic words are not enough to undo this damage.
    
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dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Budapest banned Uber due to pressure from taxi drivers union which ended up implementing an app and matching services. It took a while to mature, but the quality of the service definitely beats that of Uber now.

Alas, public transit is already really good in Budapest, so mostly only people that were using Taxis before Uber existed are using the services now. Except that you are less likely to get scammed on fares and be the victim of CC fraud due to the streamlined app process.

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andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Wait before you hear of inter-city transit and a company called BlaBlaCar. While by their own claims they just organize people to give someone a ride while going to the same town, the way to really min-max it was to get a retired, nearly scrapped bus, act like multiple virtual vehicles, and then carry 10+ people without any legal safeguards for them. The’ve got some pushbacks and the service now is less tolerant to such cases, but that’s still insane. Yet, for various reasons, people take it over dying public infrastructure like official bus depots, trains, for it’s cheaper and stops when it crosses town instead of being based in a distant station on the edge of city limits. They weren’t great, but they were at least career drivers looking into each other with some minimal checks, timetables, that municipal power could regulate. And then there’s a rando (even if ex-driver) who bought an old vehicle and drives it until it either pays off or they get asleep behind the wheel on a highway.

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SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Everyone will have something good to say of each of these, eg crypto doesn’t just benefit criminals.

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Clbull@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

People can now paw drunkenly at their phone and generally arrive home safe. Easy access to rides has almost certainly saved lives. I don’t think you can say that about any of the others on the list.

This cannot be overstated.

A close friend of mine almost got robbed when taking a dodgy cab home. Driver did a detour to a rough part of town, told him to wait and then went into a random takeaway. When he saw the driver come out with four other guys wielding cricket bats, he bolted out of the cab and ran away.

Uber had unquestionably made taking cabs back home in England both safer and more convenient.

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