Comment on American automakers are losing the race to make more fuel-efficient vehicles

• Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  All other things being equal, the smaller vehicle will have better economy than the larger. So the more relevant observation is “it doesn’t have to be longer”. There is no engineering reason why the Maverick has to be bigger than the Ranger, and it would be more economical if it weren’t. It is bigger only to satisfy regulatory compliance.

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You misunderstood my statement. There is no CAFE regulation that requires vehicles to have 4 doors. The bed is shorter because it has 4 doors. Because that is what consumers want. Not because the law requires it.

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    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I understood you perfectly. Don’t conflate “rejection of your argument” with “lack comprehension”.

      You would have a valid point if they made a 2-door variant, even if that 2-door variant came with a bed 6" longer than the Ranger’s bed. But they don’t. You would have a point if used 2-door Rangers were valued substantially less than 4-door models. But they aren’t.

      There is no justification for your claim that “consumer demand” is even a significant factor, let alone the primary reason why the “compact” Maverick has a “full size” length.

      The reason that their “compact” truck today is the size of a full-size from the 1990s (and why their full-size F-150 today is so much larger than one from the 1990s) is CAFE standards. Even though the Maverick would have better economy, less emissions, greater range, a better MPG rating with a Ranger-sized body, it would not meet the tighter restrictions that a vehicle with a Ranger-sized body would have to meet under CAFE.

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      • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The reason that their “compact” truck today is the size of a full-size from the 1990s (and why their full-size F-150 today is so much larger than one from the 1990s) is CAFE standards

        You keep repeating this and I keep telling you that there are no regulations around the number of doors.

        I’m tired of repeating myself. Goodbye now.

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