Wouldn’t we want to have it as easy to pronounce/write/remember as possible? I feel like even the people involved are not taking this seriously by making it longer and longer. It surely looks like more like a joke that way.
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db2@lemmy.one 11 months agoI think the A is for asexual… like why tf would someone not interested in sexuality care. At a certain point it’s just summertime wanting attention and I think we passed it a few characters ago. Before you, gentle reader, get upset see it for yourself… these come from Google search, obvious joke ones were ignored:
LGBT
LGBTQ
LGBTQ+ <- this is literally all inclusive, no need to go further
LGBTQ2 (“two spirit”… aka furries)
LGBTQIA+ (longest “official” acronym)
LGBTQIA2S+
LGBTQIAAP+
LGBTQIAGNC
LGBTQQIP2SAA
LGBTIQCAPGNGFNBA+
If that doesn’t make it obvious I’ll leave you with a quote from Peter Tatchell:
It’s great to be inclusive, but the new alphabet soup is a confusing and alienating mess — made even worse when people get into spats over missing initials or the inclusion of initials they disagree with. The longest I’ve ever seen is LGBTIQCAPGNGFNBA. This is absurd. It makes us a laughing stock and devalues serious issues around sexuality and gender.
Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
db2@lemmy.one 11 months ago
It’s different with nearly anyone you ask too, it’s not like there’s some standardization of the long ones. It’s literally “whatever the fuck I just thought up and you’re intolerant if you don’t respect it” happening. Which brings us right back to it being attention seeking.
Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Exactly. How can people take them seriously this way? Well, outside their own echo chamber, of course.
another_lemming@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This came to a logical problem of naming a coalition by several group names’ initials. And a very loose one at that. I felt the same about the flag updates.
It is a conclusion to what they stand for and why they are created – to get united under one banner to be seen – but at the same time it counters that in how it is disunited in these exact banners, also to be seen and recognized but individually. And a rainbow flag, iirc, wasn’t meant to mean something by each colour in it, lol.
I feel like switching to the name and a flag that don’t include that self-expansion and would just stay the same would be better – but then I catch myself realizing it is nothing other than creating another acronym\flag and asking to be argued by those who promoted these expansion for I deny their effort to gain visibility.
Shit’s a mess.
golamas1999@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Instead of people fighting over letters maybe Pride Community.
Ryantific_theory@lemmy.world 11 months ago
From poking around, it seems like GSM (Gender and Sexual Minorities) is the general successor to LGBTQ and all assorted acronyms. Obviously not as popular but it at least has everyone baked into it and doesn’t have any charged language, given the ongoing debate over whether queer has been reclaimed as a word or remains a slur.
Though, immediately after discovering it I did see people adding an R to make it GRSM (Gender, Romantic, and Sexual Minorities), which in theory covers every possible member of the LGBTQ+ family.
fearout@kbin.social 11 months ago
Yeah, I think that at this point there should just be an established term, not an ever-expanding acronym. Like an actual pronounceable word. Is there one besides "queer"?
Could something-divergent work? Like neurodivergent/neurotypical, that became more well-known in recent years. I kinda like those.redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Why not just *
spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Yo just so you know two spirit has nothing to do with furries. It usually refers to gender nonconforming traditions in indigenous american communities and has largely come into favor in Canada as part of recent campaigns to recognize tribal communities. I think you’re thinking of “otherkin” who are not generally included under the LGBTQ umbrella.
GizmoLion@kbin.social 11 months ago
Even without that it's not about furries, they're thinking of therians. Furries just think a thro animals look cute, not that they're an animal in a human suit.
db2@lemmy.one 11 months ago