Comment on YSK: Do You Really Need That Antibiotic? It’s antibiotic season. Brush up on how you should use them — and when to avoid them. (NYT, Dec 2023)

• flooppoolf@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Well… here’s my advice. Bring it up to them if you feel they didn’t remember.

  I guarantee the pharmacy is also tearing a new one into the doctor for not following guidelines. (If that’s the case) Some pharmacists will outright deny the prescription until either the doctor changes it to what is needed, or another pharmacist is pressured into doing as the doctor says. This has a paper trail. All decisions do.

  Medicine is so complicated because there are soooo many things that can be wrong. Usually we get over that by creating specialty care:

  Usually, doctors at hospitals are dedicated to a single specific thing. ICU-Trauma, infectious disease, dialysis, diabetes. And they have a team that is also part of that specialty care, pharmacists, nurses, technicians that are all familiar with the specialty.

  If an ICU doctor realizes that there is an infection going on, the Infectious Disease team will work on it alongside with the doctor that will treat the trauma as 2+ heads are always better than one.

  At the end of the day, your doctor will have to go with what’s better because he has a team dedicated to knowing the exact specifics of all antibiotics and therapies.

  As for outpatient treatment, the pharmacy will not fill anything that looks out of the norm before getting some sort of reasoning from the doctor.

  Please don’t hesitate to ask any questions when you’re under someone’s care. I’m sure you’ll get an eye roll but shorter durations ARE important, sometimes.

  Infectious Disease takes years of mastery, I am nowhere near that, just the basics.

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• godzillabacter@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You’re citing forum posts to discussions (with some evidence mentioned within) to support this supposition that doctors are horribly informed and out of date. But I’d like to point out that this is being vastly overblown, and even a 5-10 year out-of-date medical professional has immensely more knowledge and safe ability to recommend therapy than a layperson. I can’t pretend to know the credentials of the individual you’re responding to, but they’re clearly well versed in clinical infectious disease based on their comments, and you’re not supporting your position by citing a forum instead of the actual primary literature that supports your position.

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  • MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    even a 5-10 year out-of-date medical professional has immensely more knowledge and safe ability to recommend therapy than a layperson

    I know from a plethora of experience that this is wrong. It’s also way too broad of a claim. Laypeople knowledge varies a lot. I know first-hand of some laypeople who are actually top experts in scientific/medical fields and I know of people with medical degrees who promote themselves as experts in their field yet they spread harmful misinformation that severely harmed patients and nearly got them killed.

    you’re not supporting your position by citing a forum instead of the actual primary literature that supports your position

    I think this is poorly worded, but I think I still understand what you were trying to say. There is no reason for me to duplicate the forum post here. There are citations there. Copying them here doesn’t make them more legitimate.

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