Comment on Instead of only voting for one candidate we should be able to upvote or downvote each candidate

5200@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• chaogomu@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Ranked Choice is actually (much) worse overall than the modified Score that OP is describing, even with bullet voting.

  As a note, Ranked Choice still has bullet voting. About 30% of voters in a ranked choice election bullet vote.

  This video goes into a deep dive about Ranked Choice (and some other systems) and talks about how Ranked Choice might actually be worse than simple plurality. (which is already pretty bad)

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  • 5200@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You are horrible, I just spent the last half hour in a Rabbit Hole about star voting and other methods and will probably be reading more.

    I don’t know who the random YouTuber is but indeed several large voting organizations seem to favor star (score then automatic runoff) over RCV. As modern systems make counting/processing the votes much easier.

    Thanks for the links and info!

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  • donuts@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As a note, Ranked Choice still has bullet voting. About 30% of voters in a ranked choice election bullet vote.

    I think that stat could easily be attributed to a lack of familiarity with what is, to a lot of people, a new and different method of voting. You'd be surprised how many people don't adequately read or understand directions.

    In other words, what you're describing isn't inherent to the system itself and it could be much worse.

    I'd guess that the number of people who bullet vote will decrease as the level of education and familiarity around "new" voting systems like RCV increases.

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    • chaogomu@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Actually, no.

      Bullet voting is just a thing people do.

      Even in places that have been using versions of RCV for decades, about 30% of any given population will bullet vote.

      That's info from FairVote themselves (The main proponents of RCV, even if they're sort of scummy in their advocacy)

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  • 5200@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You are horrible, I just spent the last half hour in a Rabbit Hole about star voting and other methods and will probably be reading more.

    I don’t know who the random YouTuber is but indeed several large voting organizations seem to favor star (score then automatic runoff) over RCV. As modern systems make counting/processing the votes much easier.

    Thanks for the links and info!

    source
• nix@merv.news ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It wouldn’t be a two party this guy versus that guy election though. There would be debates/campaigning and then you upvote/downvote/novote for each candidate running and whoever gets the most wins

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