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haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 11 months agoAgain, social vs technical. You „can“ but you loose 90% of activity. The users who grew accustomed to your level of activity will see a barren wasteland which is what OP describes.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 11 months ago
We were already without that activity because Meta was late to the game. I would ask you to reframe your response in light of that.
Like how does it hurt us if we never had it to begin with and wouldn’t its effect only be contingent on the extent to which we are ok with or “our” attitude towards growth (and how much growth)?
haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 11 months ago
While I trust you‘re asking honestly, this topic has already been discussed a ton of times:
We are in a very dire situation worldwide due to corporations ruling everything and keeping us from doing what is necessary (solving world hunger, climate change, wars).
Often we ask ourselves „how did we get here“ and the corporations (through public figures which they are paying) have an answer for you:
And all of these answers do hold some truth depending on your view. But they’re all deflection. And its a long game. They do stuff that is pleasant, like making affordable smart tvs available. But then they put ads in them that you cant turn off without tech knowledge.
Same with threads. We‘re not in dystopia yet with threads but we‘re asking a convicted child rapist to take care of our kids. Sure, nothing bad will come of it, right?
More precisely, it will take the fediverse about 3 months to get used to the 10x amount of engagement. After that it will be tremendously hard to defederate without a chunk of users.
Everyone who barely understands how mass psychology works can tell you this.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Ya, I noticed its everything and everyone BUT the corporation that directly operates in whatever domain aha. Every time, it really does suck :(
Who’s the convicted child rapist btw? You’re not talking about Zuck are you or whoever runs Threads?
Also, we don’t really disagree on anything…I don’t think we should federate at all with anything Meta or any other group that has a history of Embracing/Extending/Eliminating or whatever. I feel like we’re doing fine with whatever we have and are doing now.
Its all tops currently and I see no need to change our calculus or do anything but let FaceB/Met fuck themselves over in time as they always do
haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 11 months ago
Thanks for the kind answer. This is fun. :)
The child rapist is a metaphor. We‘re not scared of our kids getting r*ped in this case but of us and the kids getting (among other things) manipulated to high heavens which meta has been convicted for again and again. Search for metas human rights violations and you will be serviced better than I could ever do.
You actually made me think of an idea. We could auto defederate any single instance that is more in size than the others combined. I‘d need to check the numbers but I don’t think we have this kind of situation rn.
If we made this a rule, corpos could split their giant places into instances which can then be federated and defederated individually. The idea is still a wip obviously.