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• haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Again, social vs technical. You „can“ but you loose 90% of activity. The users who grew accustomed to your level of activity will see a barren wasteland which is what OP describes.

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  • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    We were already without that activity because Meta was late to the game. I would ask you to reframe your response in light of that.

    Like how does it hurt us if we never had it to begin with and wouldn’t its effect only be contingent on the extent to which we are ok with or “our” attitude towards growth (and how much growth)?

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    • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      While I trust you‘re asking honestly, this topic has already been discussed a ton of times:

      We are in a very dire situation worldwide due to corporations ruling everything and keeping us from doing what is necessary (solving world hunger, climate change, wars).

      Often we ask ourselves „how did we get here“ and the corporations (through public figures which they are paying) have an answer for you:

      • immigrants
      • the left
      • the right
      • politicians
      • yourself

      And all of these answers do hold some truth depending on your view. But they’re all deflection. And its a long game. They do stuff that is pleasant, like making affordable smart tvs available. But then they put ads in them that you cant turn off without tech knowledge.

      Same with threads. We‘re not in dystopia yet with threads but we‘re asking a convicted child rapist to take care of our kids. Sure, nothing bad will come of it, right?

      More precisely, it will take the fediverse about 3 months to get used to the 10x amount of engagement. After that it will be tremendously hard to defederate without a chunk of users.

      Everyone who barely understands how mass psychology works can tell you this.

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      • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        list of deflections

        Ya, I noticed its everything and everyone BUT the corporation that directly operates in whatever domain aha. Every time, it really does suck :(

        Who’s the convicted child rapist btw? You’re not talking about Zuck are you or whoever runs Threads?

        Also, we don’t really disagree on anything…I don’t think we should federate at all with anything Meta or any other group that has a history of Embracing/Extending/Eliminating or whatever. I feel like we’re doing fine with whatever we have and are doing now.

        Its all tops currently and I see no need to change our calculus or do anything but let FaceB/Met fuck themselves over in time as they always do

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