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Marsupial@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Do “we” control that, like if I’m with Lemmy.world, we can defederate if we want right? And there’s technically no way Meta can fuck with that if we make that choice, right?

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  • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Again, social vs technical. You „can“ but you loose 90% of activity. The users who grew accustomed to your level of activity will see a barren wasteland which is what OP describes.

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    • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We were already without that activity because Meta was late to the game. I would ask you to reframe your response in light of that.

      Like how does it hurt us if we never had it to begin with and wouldn’t its effect only be contingent on the extent to which we are ok with or “our” attitude towards growth (and how much growth)?

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      • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        While I trust you‘re asking honestly, this topic has already been discussed a ton of times:

        We are in a very dire situation worldwide due to corporations ruling everything and keeping us from doing what is necessary (solving world hunger, climate change, wars).

        Often we ask ourselves „how did we get here“ and the corporations (through public figures which they are paying) have an answer for you:

        • immigrants
        • the left
        • the right
        • politicians
        • yourself

        And all of these answers do hold some truth depending on your view. But they’re all deflection. And its a long game. They do stuff that is pleasant, like making affordable smart tvs available. But then they put ads in them that you cant turn off without tech knowledge.

        Same with threads. We‘re not in dystopia yet with threads but we‘re asking a convicted child rapist to take care of our kids. Sure, nothing bad will come of it, right?

        More precisely, it will take the fediverse about 3 months to get used to the 10x amount of engagement. After that it will be tremendously hard to defederate without a chunk of users.

        Everyone who barely understands how mass psychology works can tell you this.

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