Comment on What DID Apple innovate?

• MeanEYE@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  A lot of people. If you went with idea they sold previously business oriented devices to regular users, I’d give you that. But it’s not like Apple invented that format or form. I advise everyone watch documentary on Springboard, which was really really ahead of its time. When everyone was messing around with dumb phones, Springboard was working on unified device with camera built-in, connectivity, etc. In fact they were too early with their product, ten years before first iPhone. More to the point, Jobs visited Springboard, said their product was shit, and went on to produce the exact same device with better polish, which was a dick move in my opinion, but that’s business. But saying Apple invented smartphones or refined them. No. It’s an iterative process like everything else.

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  • thecrotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Apple doesnt create products. Apple creates markets. Nobody bought modern phones before the iPhone. They existed, nobody bought them. Nobody bought tablets before the iPad. They existed, nobody bought them. Nobody bought mp3 players before the iPod. They existed, nobody bought them. Everyone bought them after, and not just from Apple.

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    • MeanEYE@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You seriously need to get out of that bubble. If product exists, that means there’s a market demand for it. By your own statement world is filled with infinitely rich companies which throw R&D resources on new products and constantly flopping and not turning profit, which is really not the case. People certainly bought MP3 players and tablets before Apple made their own version. iPod was popular but unattainable to most of the countries with poor economy and it’s not like people didn’t listen to music until Apple came along to save us all.

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      • thecrotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What bubble? The iPod was an enormous cultural phenomenom that brought mp3 players into the mainstream. Nobody’s ever heard of the saehan mpman, even though it predated the iPod for years, because it was bought by a few thousand early adopters.

        This guy hates apple so much he’s trying to convince me they’re not financially successful lmao

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    • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lmao. Apple anti-cpmpetively corners markers by preventing their products from working with anyone who actually innovates anything new.

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      • thecrotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        What? That doesn’t even make any sense. You can’t use that sort of tactic until you’ve already sold a shitload of products.

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  • toofpic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is the phone I had as my own and sold to my customers. It came out a year before iPhone among many others. It was a mature product. It was quite shitty in terms of performance, but it had all connectivity and gps stuff, and many apps to work with it all.
    Windows’ shitty interface could be improved by cool touch-oriented interfaces (Spb Mobile Shell being one of them), there were 3rd party keyboards as well. m.gsmarena.com/htc_p3600-1694.php

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• JaymesRS@literature.cafe ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.

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  • thecrotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe so, but the fact remains that nobody bought mp3 players before the iPod, and everyone bought one after.

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    • JaymesRS@literature.cafe ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m aware. That’s a fairly well known criticism of from the iPod announcement from Slashdot that proved to be misguided proving your point. Others may have exited, but the polish and innovation Apple put into them had a huge impact and made them go from a niche product to one for the masses. I agree with you.

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