Comment on Lemmy.world Should Defederate with Threads

cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• throws_lemy@lemmy.nz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m copying pasta from my previous reply on other post

  Once they can interact with your account, they can pull your data into their server and analyzing it to deliver ads campaign.

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  • ethan@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I think you’re fundamentally misunderstanding how data is handled in federated systems. When an account from Threads interacts with your post or you interact with a Threads post, information is exchanged exclusively through Actions sent between the servers- never to or from your or their client to another server.

    They don’t get any information that isn’t already available to your instance- IP address or otherwise. There are no new points to connect.

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  • infinitepcg@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What a wild conspiracy theory.

    Legally, they can’t collect and process any of the data unless you accepted a contract with them. Just by sending an upvote or a comment to their instance, you don’t agree to any of this.

    And if they choose to ignore the law and just do it anyway, they still can’t, because all they have is the data that your instance sends them. They don’t have your geo-location, device Id, etc.

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  • cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I am not getting it. If i am not using their threads client and signed in to a de federating instance, they would not get my IP address right?

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    • ethan@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They wouldn’t be able to get it even from a federated instance as long as you don’t use their frontend.

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• PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Well, they could gather that, then skim through your posts, and then look at all the other ways they’ve gathered your data, like any of the Facebook trackers on various other websites, then create a shadow profile of you with all of the collective sum information they have.

  And that’s assuming you don’t already use Facebook or messenger, in which case they basically have everything anyway.

  It also assumes that they haven’t purchased any data from data brokers to create these shadow profiles. Having an IP is actually pretty bad, all things considered, when you have a trove of information

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  • ethan@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They could already get all of your profile and post info… I could get that right now through the free api for every account on this and every other thread with a couple dozen lines of code.

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  • infinitepcg@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It doesn’t make sense for Lemmy (or Mastodon) to send your IP to other instances. Without that IP, all they have is your username. They can’t really track you based on just the username.

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    • CertifiedBlackGuy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fuck, I shouldn’t have used my reddit handle.

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Not even that.

  IP address isn’t part of your public profile, so it’s not something they could ever access unless you make an account on there directly.

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• rglullis@communick.news ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why is your account marked as a bot?

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  • cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh, no… I was trying to block bot posts, and may have accidentally checked the box.

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    • SendMePhotos@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bad bot

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    • kpw@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You're not fooling anyone.

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