Comment on 41% of fediverse instances have blocked threads so far!!!

• phillaholic@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And then instances start fighting and decelerate from each other and it becomes this annoying game of will I be able to see the content I want to tomorrow? We’ll see how it turns out. Needing to keep moving instances isn’t my idea of a good thing like everyone else seems to think it is.

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  • Crashumbc@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re touching a sore topic. Hence the downvotes, many that have bought into the fediverse, believe (in a religious cult way) that its architecture won’t be taken advantage of by bad actors. Even though history has proven the opposite.

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    • Lucia@eviltoast.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Reminds me of this comment by one of the Lemmy devs: lemmy.ml/comment/6744852

      Technology won’t save us if we allow unethical companies to mess with us.

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      • phillaholic@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Spot on… but we have very little power to stop them, unless you are comfortable with the size of Lemmy today.

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    • phillaholic@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I get that cult feeling for sure. There is a lot less nuance here. I’d be curious of the average demographic because I see a lot of naivety that’s probably linked to age & experience.

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      • Croquette@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s such a reductive sweep of a whole userbase. It’s not because you have a negative outlook that everybody has to be like you.

        People are thrilled to try and build something new and people like you come and shit on them to try to recreate reddit.

        At the very least, people are trying to take back a part of the internet that corporations controlled for more than a decade. So it’s normal that when a megacorp come and try to muddle the water, people are refusing that because they know their M.O.

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  • Croquette@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If that is the case, then the Lemmy will start to shrink or straight up die, but that is life.

    That’s the risk of the federation. But I much prefer that than a monolithic black box controlled by a mega corpo.

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    • phillaholic@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I just want to find the content I like, the content that helps me solve problems, and a way to interact with it without being forced to see ads. I’m not going to use a worse product just because it’s not controlled by a corporation and I don’t think I’m alone in that across most of the population.

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      • Croquette@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Then maybe Lemmy isn’t for you then. The way the fediverse is structured at its core seems to be a problem for you.

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes.

    I think a fully p2p system with a community, a user, and a post being identified by a key and connected via asymmetric cryptography, and then a reputation system yielding a number between, say, -100 and +100, would work better.

    That reputation system wouldn’t be like karma, it would possibly also affect whether we store something below -50 score, to then share.

    It should be relative - we may attribute an evaluation to a thing, which would affect its children. Or we may attribute an evaluation to a user, and then derive score for a thing from that user’s evaluation of it. Or maybe all of the described.

    Maybe something like that is going to be easier to build on Locutus when it becomes operational.

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    • tal@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think that any single score is going to make everyone happy.

      Maybe if there are multiple user-scoring systems run by various sources, and I can choose which score I want to use as a metric.

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      • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Eh, that was the whole point. Do not leave moderation to other people or at least make that easy.

        It should be relative

        Which means that the score of anything would be derived from 1) what you directly set, 2) what another user sets, modified by what you set for that user, 3) what a user sets, modified by what is set for him by another user, which has a value set by you attributed …

        One can even make a logic where you see high score for things disliked by people you dislike.

        There is some computative difficulty, but nothing big for our times.

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