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random65837@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Then you don’t grasp what’s happening, You think the Goog wants to be in the middle of that shit? That’s time and resources that don’t benefit them. Providing that data puts them in a bad spot Everytime, simply not having the data to provide obsoloves them of that and is in both their and the end users best interest. The push getting worse is because current Stingrays don’t work on 5G, so the internal police spying is very limited now, and getting location records from telcos requires more of a papertrail than going to Google and Apple in the past, and when cops are asking for shit they don’t really need, they don’t want to be in the books for it.

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CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You said a lot without saying a lot

What id ahppening that google doesnt want to be in the middle of?

Also, didnt know that about stingrays, might have to finally upgrade my 4G phone now. Thanks for that

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- echodot@feddit.uk ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  There’s zero benefit for Google to hand over this information, and potentially face a lawsuit because it actually turns out that no it wasn’t legal for this information to be handed over. Google are of course aware that cops don’t necessarily obey the law, so just because you’ve been asked to by a cop to provide something doesn’t necessarily mean it’s legal for you to hand it over.
  
  It’s much simpler if they just don’t have this data. That way they can’t hand it over, so there’s no problem.
  
  In this case an issue avoided is very much an issue solved.
  
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ruplicant@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
i get what you’re saying, but you did not mention the benefit Google itself got from that data, that they’ll have to forfeit so that they won’t be able to provide it to the police

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- random65837@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Honestly, these days there probably wasn’t much benefit. At one point, sure, but looking at it from the standpoint of a non privacy aware person, they’re handing so much data over, ignoring the line of their travel probably does near nothing for them, while having and holding that data is a huge negative since they’ll always be harassed for it from law enforcement. Without it, they can probably dissolve whole departments of people that had to be dedicated to LE ass kissing so the police didn’t have to do their jobs or so they could cast their dragnets and put tons of innocent people through hell while they figured out everything later.
  
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