Fediverse will never get a sensible percentage of people
If Fediverse will reach a “sensible amounts of people” by sacrificing all of its goals (no ads, no data harvesting), what’s the point of it? You can already register an acc on threads and enjoy full Meta experience.
everything new gets blocked
Meta isn’t ‘everything new’. It’s ‘just’ an awful company with unethical business model.
for no reason
Seems more like you dismiss any reasoning against federation as ‘it’s all paranoia’.
Maalus@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah, because it is all “slippery slope” and paranoia. So what that they federate? How are they going to force developers to implement ads? How will they force their unethical business model on you?
wetnoodle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
mastodon.online/…/111585528118111249
Zuck has been refining his unethical business model for decades, they aren’t joining activitypub to be a team player.
pascal@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Is there a way to technically deliver an unbroken user experience to a thread user without privacy issues?
wetnoodle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Not really that I can think of, which is why I don’t think anyone should federate with them. I agree it’s instance operator and users choice but I feel like the default shouldn’t be “sign your privacy away, block them if you want to have privacy again (which you likely already lost some of from being federated with them)”
Lucia@eviltoast.org 10 months ago
Their ToS (another user already sent a link to it) says they will collect data of anyone interacting with users on their service.
There’s this weird argument that our data is public so privacy violation is okay. But, even if it’s technically possible to collect and analyze data of fedizens doesn’t mean it’s okay to do. If it would become known that some of the existing instances do this they will be immediately defederated by everyone. But of course it’s different for Meta because they’re such a nice company!
Womble@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You don’t have privacy in public, that’s the difference between public and private. If meta wanted to they could scrape the entirety of the fediverse every weekend without anyone being federated with an instance of theirs. So that isnt a good reason for defederating.
Fear of EEE is a more reasonable argument, but given that it can be done at any point I dont see any reason to do it pre-emptively rather than take a wait and see approach.
Lucia@eviltoast.org 10 months ago
I literally said that: “There’s this weird argument that our data is public so privacy violation is okay.”
It doesn’t matter if it’s public, they use their server for data mining and we can prevent that. Someone may collect our data secretely but it doesn’t make more open approach to data mining any better or more ethical.
The longer users on your instance interact with content on Threads, the harder it will be to defederate (people will get angy about losing their content and their reach).