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• Lucia@eviltoast.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Fediverse will never get a sensible percentage of people

  If Fediverse will reach a “sensible amounts of people” by sacrificing all of its goals (no ads, no data harvesting), what’s the point of it? You can already register an acc on threads and enjoy full Meta experience.

  everything new gets blocked

  Meta isn’t ‘everything new’. It’s ‘just’ an awful company with unethical business model.

  for no reason

  Seems more like you dismiss any reasoning against federation as ‘it’s all paranoia’.

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  • Maalus@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, because it is all “slippery slope” and paranoia. So what that they federate? How are they going to force developers to implement ads? How will they force their unethical business model on you?

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    • wetnoodle@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      mastodon.online/…/111585528118111249

      Zuck has been refining his unethical business model for decades, they aren’t joining activitypub to be a team player.

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      • pascal@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is there a way to technically deliver an unbroken user experience to a thread user without privacy issues?

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    • Lucia@eviltoast.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How will they force their unethical business model on you?

      Their ToS (another user already sent a link to it) says they will collect data of anyone interacting with users on their service.

      There’s this weird argument that our data is public so privacy violation is okay. But, even if it’s technically possible to collect and analyze data of fedizens doesn’t mean it’s okay to do. If it would become known that some of the existing instances do this they will be immediately defederated by everyone. But of course it’s different for Meta because they’re such a nice company!

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      • Womble@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You don’t have privacy in public, that’s the difference between public and private. If meta wanted to they could scrape the entirety of the fediverse every weekend without anyone being federated with an instance of theirs. So that isnt a good reason for defederating.

        Fear of EEE is a more reasonable argument, but given that it can be done at any point I dont see any reason to do it pre-emptively rather than take a wait and see approach.

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