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Comment on Mozilla announces their new AI website builder, community reacts appropriately
loxo@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Appropriately? Not a single comment on that post gives any good reason why they’re butthurt.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Sabata11792@kbin.social 6 months ago
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
lmao
LWD@lemm.ee 6 months ago
[deleted]Sabata11792@kbin.social 6 months ago
It's the same concerns as any automation. Their right to be angry, but it's not going to stop. Adapt to the new changes or become irrelevant. Same story for all of human history.
LWD@lemm.ee 6 months ago
[deleted]DarkThoughts@kbin.social 6 months ago
Those are stupid and I doubt any web developer wrote these. Unless they were also scared about WYSIWYG editors 25+ years ago.
LWD@lemm.ee 6 months ago
[deleted]DarkThoughts@kbin.social 6 months ago
You don't have to spam me by deleting and lazily reposting your comment.
LWD@lemm.ee 6 months ago
[deleted]DarkThoughts@kbin.social 6 months ago
Unless they were also scared about WYSIWYG editors 25+ years ago.
I guess even web developers can be stupid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
LWD@lemm.ee 6 months ago
[deleted]ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 6 months ago
Not to be finicky, but neither of these necessarily indicate “development” experience.
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Patch@feddit.uk 6 months ago
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“The steam loom is going to put weavers out of work, industrialization is a double edged sword and needs to be carefully considered”.
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This is the same complaint made about literally every single AI programme. It’s not necessarily invalid, but if Mozilla doesn’t move into this space plenty of other competitors still will.
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Mozilla is allowed to do more than one thing.
LWD@lemm.ee 6 months ago
[deleted]Patch@feddit.uk 6 months ago
Why do you keep deleting your messages and re-replying with essentially the same thing?
I’ll repost my reply to your last deleted message:
As someone who has never had any particular compunction about sailing the digital seven seas, and generally has a liberal view of copyright laws and overly comprehensive intellectual property protections, I really don’t give a hoot about whether publicly accessible websites have been used as training data for a website creating system.
If you don’t want people/machines to read your intellectual property, don’t post it on the internet.
LWD@lemm.ee 6 months ago
[deleted]Patch@feddit.uk 6 months ago
As someone who has never had any particular compunction about sailing the digital seven seas, and generally has a liberal view of copyright laws and overly comprehensive intellectual property protections, I really don’t give a hoot about whether publicly accessible websites have been used as training data for a website creating system.
If you don’t want people/machines to read your intellectual property, don’t post it on the internet.
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LWD@lemm.ee 6 months ago
[deleted]Bizarroland@kbin.social 6 months ago
I would say one potential upside for this is that it would be somewhat shocking for mozilla's AI website builder to not build websites that work with Firefox.
Apparently a lot of developers are relying on Chrome only JavaScript packages and that is what is breaking several of the websites that I go to for Firefox.
ripcord@kbin.social 6 months ago
Like what sites? I haven't run into a single site that doesn't work with Firefox.
otl@hachyderm.io 6 months ago
@ripcord @LWD @loxo @Bizarroland Some will report that they don’t work in Firefox (or whatever User Agent it receives), but actually work just fine. In my regular browsing I guess I see this once every couple of months (Firefox on OpenBSD).
LWD@lemm.ee 6 months ago
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
The first is not just wrong, but also dumb.
It’s wrong because anything this website builder can make, an existing template system would be able to do with admittedly more work. No designer needed.
It’s dumb because this is the argument used for literally anything that makes things easier for the layman. Would you rather we live without refrigerators so the milkman has a job? 🤦🏻♂️
The second is an ongoing argument with any AI model. And while it brings up a good point, it’s really just the same argument but with “freelancer” and “developer” instead of “artist” or “author.”
And the third is just… someone complaining in a non specific way that is both oddly condescending, while also ignoring the fact that companies (and people) can work on more than one thing. Shocking.
If these weren’t opinions, I’d say they were wrong. I mean, they are wrong to be clear, but I won’t say it.
thesmokingman@programming.dev 6 months ago
Adding onto the middle two bullets (training on freelance work and reducing freelance jobs), existing freelancers already steal everything that isn’t available as a template. That’s how templates get made and moved from platform to platform. The history of web dev is all about someone doing something cool on their website and then someone else copying it and so on. Squarespace templates are just ripoffs of Wordpress templates which are just ripoffs of agency Wordpress work or agency/solo websites. There’s no copyright to that design already.
Also the market is fucking predatory for the layman. This is a net good in terms of democratizing the internet. Instead of forcing me to go to some Meta site where they control the dialogue, I can go to your site. Before small businesses couldn’t really afford the cost or maintenance for a site or just didn’t know where to start. A lot of freelance WP or Drupal or Magento stuff was so poorly secured that businesses got fucked by trusting the kid of the secretary who said they could do it for 10x than the firm quoted and the company couldn’t even figure out UpWork code exchanges. More importantly, there’s nothing stopping the freelancer from just doing this behind the scenes so you can’t really complain about lost jobs.
Code generation is a net win for everyone. If these same people aren’t shitting on Copilot or even privately trained Tabnine they have no place in this discussion.