Net neutrality effectively ending under Trump might clear it up
Comment on Senator Warren calls out Apple for shutting down Beeper's 'iMessage to Android' solution
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 year ago
Honestly it’s hard to see how messages don’t fall under the protection of net neutrality.
gila@lemm.ee 1 year ago
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 year ago
Ah, you’re right, the reimplementation of some of the old rules was voted to pass in October 2023 so it’s probably still in the works. Damn.
gila@lemm.ee 1 year ago
They’re still regulated under Title 1, just not as much. Theres much less of an obligation to set a fair price, for example. More so pointing out we can’t necessarily rely on net neutrality as something that generally protects anyone from anything anymore. It only prevents business from doing specific things that are seen as bad business, the consumer isn’t really in mind
csm10495@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I mean they do, but that doesn’t mean a message platform can’t platform lock itself.
The ISP isn’t discriminating… that’s net neutrality.
I think you might be a bit confused.
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 year ago
It just feels like users being restricted to not having any incoming or outgoing communication across operating systems is discriminating. The reason Beeper’s previous and current solutions stopped working is because they started blocking it. If Apple had successfully built a protocol that couldn’t be accessed by Android devices then that would be one thing, but they failed to do that and now they’re discriminating against otherwise valid connections.
csm10495@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
It’s a competitive advantage. Nothing wrong with that from a business perspective.
Why should Apple build something to work with Android? That would allow people in Apple’s hand to swap. No business reason to do it. Why waste server time servicing a competing platform’s user’s messages?
Then again, there isn’t really a reason why iMessage is a big benefit with RCS, Whatsapp, Messenger, SMS, Signal, etc. exist.
According to the given logic, logic if I reverse engineer Facebook Messenger, I should be able to have my app that talks to FB Messenger users. I would have it until, they block me out. They have a terms of service that likely disallows this usage. They have a right to enforce that.
At the end of the day I could care less about iMessage but can defend Apple’s right to be a walled garden if they want, even if I disagree, etc.
doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 year ago
Because controlling what people send between each other on devices they purchased and own is not something that the regular human beings at apple have any authority to do, least not for profit. Something very few people seem to understand these days is that in a functioning democracy it pays to have good Business Ethics, or else your company is doomed to eventually buckle and fall apart.
tabular@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Getting around iPhone’s restrictions is referred to a “jailbreaking” because the “walled garden” denies the freedom of the users. It would be better if Apple users are taught to value their software freedoms and break out themselves. Government intervention is a risk that I hope Apple doesn’t force them to take by failing to ethically moderate themselves. One way or another the garden walls come down.
alienangel@sffa.community 1 year ago
That’s not remotely what’s happening though? I have only ever had android devices, but message people on apple devices all the time. I don’t know or care what colour my sms messages show up on their devices, but they do show up. And maybe they have a bunch of iOS-only secret chat orgies they don’t tell me about, but who cares? I can still talk to them across discord, line, WhatsApp, Instagram, fb messenger, slack, Skype, signal, telegram, irc and God knows how many other different chat apps my friends and I have used at various times. The fact that iMessage is Apple exclusive doesn’t make a difference to anything, they all have a different subset of apps anyway even just the android users so i have to have all those apps installed too.