Comment on Is jQuery still the go-to JS helper library?

• realharo@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Custom template language and custom DOM attributes are way weirder than just using language-native constructs (ternary operator, map/filter, variables, etc.) directly like you can in JSX.

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  • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    nah mate,mixing html into js is fucked, no matter how hard you cope.

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    • realharo@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Still better than whatever the hell this is

      vuejs.org/guide/essentials/template-syntax

      The more you scroll down, the worse it gets.

      And this too: vuejs.org/guide/essentials/list

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      • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        template syntax is a piece of cake, takes literally 2 hours to learn everything you need and you can easily see what’s where and how the html will look when it’s rendered or not.

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  • spartanatreyu@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    DOM attributes are built for browsers and frameworks to take advantage of.

    The style of some of those frameworks to stick symbols in there is weird. But that only goes against those frameworks. It doesn’t impact how good DOM attributes actually are.

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• DroneRights@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Vue sucks. A pretty graphic of a CGI robot convincing untrained programmers to merge their web files and produce unreadable garbage as the output file.

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• CmdrKeen@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Both are weird compared to Svelte.

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  • spartanatreyu@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Svelte uses labels, so Svelte itself is weird compared to everything. Except in a way to goto-style control-flow code.

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    • CmdrKeen@lemmy.today ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You mean these? Does it use them internally, because I haven’t really seen them in any Svelte code.

      If so, what does it matter what the compiler does in order to make your code work, so long as it’s legal? It’s perfectly valid JS, that’s all that counts.

      I wouldn’t say Svelte is weird as much as it’s different. That’s the whole point after all. Instead of adding a bunch of library bloat and keeping an entire copy of the DOM to constantly compare to and derive changes from, it compiles your components down to native JS that manipulates the DOM directly, like you would by hand. Except of course the compiler uses different ways to achieve that than you would, but that’s because it doesn’t have to care about readability, as long as it creates valid and efficient code.

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