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• Arelin@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  you are trying to compare this to the US and bring up other Countries and what they think

  Shouldn’t we look at different sources and scrutinize events and claims thoroughly? You seem to be thinking you’re being objective by taking a centrist position on these but this

  China invaded and occupied Tibet

  is a western claim, and exactly what the US and EU wants its citizens to think by drawing a false equivalence between them and their geopolitical rival. Tibet had a popular revolutionary party whose views were in line with the rest of China that wanted China’s help overthrowing the Dalai Lama, under whom slavery and serfdom was common in the region. Tibet is an autonomous region now.

  Hell, the Tibetan uprising against the Chinese government later on was organized by the CIA, and the US is open about it and even proud of it now. Here’s a book on that written by a US district judge and a journal by a poffessor on Tibetan studies. It’s similar to how the US overthrew the democratically elected Mosaddegh in Iran because his policies would benefit Iran instead of the US.

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  • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Again you feel the need to bring up the US. This is all you got, isn’t it? “Hey, Hey, don’t call out my Camp, look at the US. They are bad!”.

    You honestly believe everyone lies? Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, International Campaign for Tibet, Tibetan Centre for Human Rights and Democracy, the UN. All lie? But China tells the truth. You are so far gone it’s unbelievable. You question well documented facts, but you won’t believe that a regime that is notorious for lying won’t lie? You are waaaay too far gone that I, a random Person from the Internet, could ever convince you. I’m just going to block you, you are not worth arguing with any further. You have nothing of value to say I couldn’t read in a Chinese propaganda pamphlet.

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  • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Tibet had a popular revolutionary party whose views were in line with the rest of China that wanted China’s help overthrowing the Dalai Lama, under whom slavery and serfdom was common in the region.

    Yes Tibet was a theocratic slave state. But China still invaded and annexed them.

    Was the US invasion of Iraq justified because Saddam was a dictator? If we annexed Iraq and didn’t make them speak English it would be fine?

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    • Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Forget it. He is too far gone. We are just Strangers on the Internet, and he lives inside a paranoid nightmare. I tried my best but got nowhere.

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      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I can see his side because Tibet was a Theocratic slave state. But he pretends China didn’t invade.

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      • DarkThoughts@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        He's clearly a tankie. I wonder if lemmy.zip is just as bad as lemmygrad or lemmy.ml.
        I know why I went to kbin though. I just have no desire to directly support those developers.

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      • Arelin@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        he lives inside a paranoid nightmare

        Lmao I wouldn’t go that far. But we can’t all see eye-to-eye ig unfortunately.

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    • Arelin@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      China invaded and annexed them.

      Again, the popular Tibetan revolutionary party fought the feudal rule; their views were in line with the rest of China, and the autonomous nature of the region while being part of China reflects that.

      the US invasion of Iraq

      Not even comparable. There were no popular pro-US movements fighting Saddam’s rule, and Iraq was destabilized in the first place because of US sanctions, not Saddam’s decisions unlike the feudalism in Tibet. This was purely a strategic invasion to set up military bases and secure oil and resources by making up false claims of WMDs.

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      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        popular Tibetan revolutionary party

        If they were popular, they wouldn’t have needed China to invade. China was supporting them just like the US supported revolutionaries that overthrew their governments.

        There were no popular pro-US movements fighting Saddam’s rule

        The Kurds.

        This was purely a strategic invasion to set up military bases and secure oil and resources by making up false claims of WMDs.

        Their are no us military bases in Iraq and all the oil money goes to Iraq.

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  • Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So are you saying that China didn’t abduct a child in an attempt to exterminate Tibetan culture?

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