Comment on Apple has seemingly found a way to block Android’s new iMessage app

Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• iAmNotorious@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  With notifications turned off

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  • Reddfugee42@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Seriously. Who wants to know when people are talking to them? GO AWAY, PEOPLE. GOSH.

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  • nixcamic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Honestly for most people this is a crazy level of paranoia. The US government can know the metadata of my friends birthday party organization group.

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    • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But why?

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      • nixcamic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Honestly I don’t care if the government knows who’s all going to the party. Someone’s gonna post pictures of it anyhow. My garbage data is just more stuff for them to sort through.

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      • jimbo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Because it’s a significant inconvenience to disable those notifications over the very unlikely possibility that some bad actor will hoover that data up, much less do something nefarious with it.

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  • Chobbes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why?

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    • iAmNotorious@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      macrumors.com/…/apple-governments-surveil-push-no…

      The US government is forcing Google and Apple to share push notification data with them. Even if the content is not sent, the metadata alone can let them know who you are talking to and when using metadata correlation.

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      • Chobbes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Signal push notifications don’t contain any useful plain text data. AFAIK the only thing you would be leaking is that you received a message on signal, and frankly that metadata is probably going to be leaked to the US government regardless of your use of push notifications.

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• smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It is a great app, but you cannot fit everyone into a single app.

  Examples why I personally sometimes don’t want to use Signal:

  • no native desktop app, just a half-baked Electron based thing
  • no versions for systems other than Android and iOS
  • requires phone number (common argument)
  • hard to integrate bots, notifications and automatic services for the future use
  • when Signal foundation do something stupid, it would mean me having to migrate all friends yet another time

  Signal is super giga great, the cons list is short, but if we want everyone to use something it has to be an universal protocol, not one app.

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  • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    no versions for systems other than Android and iOS

    requires phone number (common argument)

    Ok, those are legitimate complaints, and I suspect they’re related too. It would be nice to have a web client.

    hard to integrate bots, notifications and automatic services for the future use

    Personally, I’d say that’s a feature.

    Signal is super giga great, the cons list is short, but if we want everyone to use something it has to be an universal protocol, not one app.

    To be fair, signal is an open source protocol that anyone is free to implement. Signal protocol

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    • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To be fair, signal is an open source protocol that anyone is free to implement.

      “The Signal Protocol (formerly known as the TextSecure Protocol) is a non-federated cryptographic protocol that provides end-to-end encryption for voice and instant messaging conversations[…]”

      Signal is an encryption protocol, not messaging protocol. My comment was about a messaging one like XMPP or Matrix.

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• hAhAhNKoReAn@fanaticus.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Besides your mum, she uses WhatsApp to ask me for money

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• Prater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I wish!

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