Comment on Just get a bigger fence

• Stamets@startrek.website ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Well, no, it must be left in because if you stick with your part of “every crazy request” then it completely ignores the entire spirit and purpose of the Prime Directive. Starfleet isn’t the be all and end all of morality. Their decisions affect them and the people within it but they’re not “Team America: Space Police.” They don’t go around judging which laws are good and which aren’t. ESPECIALLY when that perspective comes from them and them alone. Different cultures have different beliefs. Ignoring them and imposing your own on everyone is imperalistic as hell and directly against what Starfleet stands for.

  Adding a clause to children works for me because the only purpose is to protect the children. The Prime Directive is still able to stand and work between cultures but this way Starfleet is able to say “Our cultures matter too and our culture says children whos brains aren’t done developing shouldn’t be executed for a mistake.” Sure it’s still fucked up that they’d do it to adults but they’re adults. They made their decision and their decision led to them doing stupid shit on an alien planet, fucking around and finding out.

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  • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not complying with requests is not the same as imposing your morality. Nopping out of the contact with some population because they believe your people must be killed won’t destroy their culture.

    But then, yeah, the show would have to contain hard decisions, and would be completely different from Star Trek (at least the newer ones).

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    • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Aaaand I’m out. So tired of people feeling the need to bash newer Treks to make some random point.

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    • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You should watch The Orville, it’s like Star Trek with the training wheels taken off.

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      • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        To be fair, I would probably hate a series like Star Trek but with the hard decisions.

        But I’m looking into this one. I have the impression it’s a comedy?

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  • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah but the principle of it is to let them evolve on their own, when you’re already on their planet and they try to kill one of you then it’s different rules.

    If it wasn’t then the romulans could just announce their new law makes being human illegal and Starfleet would just have to power down their shields and let them kill us all.

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    • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think you’ve considerably misunderstood what the Prime Directive is… It doesn’t just apply to unevolved people. It also applies to civilizations that have warp too.

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      • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No you’ve just got it compartmentalized in your head into happy little feel good boxes because you don’t want to think about the actual complexity of reality (well fictional reality)

        It’s insane not because it’s a bad comparison but because it makes clear the insanity in your worldview (or galactic view I guess)

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• Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They let Tasha Yar duel to the death because some dude had the hots for her.

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