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• doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If it’s constructive then it should be interpreted as good faith.

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  • paintbucketholder@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is saying “you’re doing it wrong” really constructive?

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    • FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The first step to correction is understanding there is a problem in the first place. This is quite constructive, it may just not feel like it is because it’s framed combatively.

      You’re doing it wrong is the phrase that lets teachers teach at one of the most basic levels.

      The public is essentially a self teaching teacher, so this is just the process of public correction happening. It may look/feel like public shaming, and it may be if they’re going too far, but that is the mechanism that I think is playing out here.

      Does that framing make it any more palatable to you or does it still seem unnecessarily disrespectful?

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      • paintbucketholder@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s probably just a definition thing.

        To me, constructive criticism means that the criticism doesn’t just point out failure, but that it then also shows how to correct that failure.

        By itself, “you’re doing it wrong” is just destructive: it takes something apart, it destroys it. Without a subsequent “and here’s how you would do it right,” it doesn’t become constructive, it doesn’t help in putting things back together in the correct way.

        Sure, as a first step, “you’re doing it wrong” is completely justified when something is actually wrong.

        But without the second step - the constructive part - it just doesn’t constitute constructive criticism. By itself, it’s just criticism.

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    • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I didn’t think a step by step guide was really needed to correct it, but maybe I should?

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