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BoiledRhombus@lemmy.world 11 months ago“For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb.” - Psalm 139:13
“Thus says the Lord who made you, who formed you from the womb and will help you: Fear not, O Jacob my servant, Jeshurun whom I have chosen.” Isaiah 44:2
“Did not he who made me in the womb make him? And did not one fashion us in the womb?” Job 31:15
The Wikipedia article conveniently leaves these out. It’s very clear that God knows us before we ever existed.
oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 11 months ago
You should add those to the wikipedia table.
A partially knitted sweater isn’t a sweater, those don’t imply to me that the bible is saying anything about the moral relevance of fetuses in those verses. If they do it has very concerning implications for miscarriages (he starts knitting them but then says “actually i don’t want that person to exist”). An all-knowing god would know exactly which fetuses would get aborted and not put as much into knitting them, anymore than someone knitting a sweater that they know would get destroyed after they knit a few lines wouldn’t get too excited about it either.
And for someone who claims to not author confusion, there’s a lot of confusion around exactly what it’s saying here about the moral relevance of fetuses, given we’ve both interpretted it to mean almost opposite things
BoiledRhombus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s like saying a all-knowing God would know which people were going to be slaves all their lives 150 years ago, so He didn’t put much effort into creating them. Every life has value to God, whether they are birthed or not.
oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 11 months ago
He’d actually be doing them a service, if he knew they would be enslaved and didn’t make the experience so vivid for them.
Or better yet just outright saying “don’t own people as property” would be nice, rather than saying it’s ok pretty explicitly (not in all contexts, etc etc. I don’t want to spend the hours drilling into the verses until we get to the part where the person is forced into saying something like “i don’t know why god is ok with that but i have to trust he’s good”)