Comment on Not mocking cobol devs but yall are severely underpaid for keeping fintech alive

• CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Probably anything outside the US.

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  • elbarto777@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s what I was thinking. I moved to Europe and my salary was halved. After three years of scratching this “living in Europe” itch, I’m ready to move back to the U.S. An entry level developer should be making no less than 90K.

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    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yep. Few people where I live envy the US, but if you’re a developer the money is no joke. You have to expect that eventually all those big American tech companies will start offshoring, given the crazy money they could save.

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      • elbarto777@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That’s what I tell fellow devs around here. Try the U.S. for one or two years, especially if they offer shares. Then move back. Profit!

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    • dafo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      €70k as a developer? That’s a middled aged EM salary here in Sweden

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      • L4rr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Unfortunately I have to ask, what’s the meaning of EM?

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      • elbarto777@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I bet. I’m assuming taxes are way higher up there too.

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• BaardFigur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  C++ Cad application, Norway, so not from a poor country. I know I’m underpaid but didn’t expect it to be that bad

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  • elbarto777@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hang in there, friend! You’ll make it big sooner rather than later!

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  • pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How many years experience? It took me a few years before I started making a decent wage.

    Definitely keep honing your skills and applying around for different jobs, and taking jobs that you can use to “leapfrog” to other, even better jobs.

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    • BaardFigur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      6 years. I’m by no means an expert, but I’m not newbie either

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      • pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Okay that is getting up in years. I was about there when I started to get more aggressive with the salary I was asking. You could probably start on the developer I -> developer II -> senior developer career path.

        Do you look at other jobs much? Do much networking? Talk to other devs about their salary? Even just grabbing a lunch with some workmates from time to time can help get you in the right mindset of recognising your worth.

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