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filister@lemmy.world 1 year agoOh so your point is that they should all die, especially the babies and the kids.
You say you reap what you sow, but isn’t Israel continuously and intentionally trying to antagonize Palestinians with illegal settlements, unfair treatment, limit of their right of free movement, land grab, detention of people without any sentence, creating of multiple checkpoints, etc. There are so many human rights violations, reported by multiple human rights watchdogs, organizations, international entities. What about the settlers violence in the West Bank where none of the settlers were actually held responsible. Weren’t there calls to drop an atomic bomb over both Gaza and West Bank by members of their current government. And what not more. So telling me that one side is at fault while admitting that the other side is also not in fault is clearly showing your bias on this topic.
And yes, I don’t think that you personally would be very happy if you were treated the way Palestinians are treated.
The truth is that Israel isn’t much better than Hamas in this conflict, and they are responsible for a lot more innocent people’s deaths and suffering. So yes, while I condemn Hamas and think what they did on the 7.10 is horrible, the response of Israel doesn’t paint them in a much better picture. They destroyed more than 50% of the civilian infrastructure in the Northern Gaza and are well underway to do the same in the south. They just make this small piece of land inhabitable and their master plan is to grab it for themselves too. Same with Jerusalem. Where they decided that this city belongs to them. How isn’t this arrogant move. Shall I remind you that this city is home for 4 different ethnic groups, and calling it their own is a sign of complete ignorance of international law and a sense of impunity.
danielfgom@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No I don’t want to see them die. I’m not promoting death I’m just saying if you start a war, people will die. And if those same people were happy to see Americans and Jews die and celebrated that, you can’t expect many people to suddenly feel sorry for them.
If a school bully always laughs every time he beats up someone, then if a bigger boy comes and does the same to him, no one will really feel sorry for him will they?
As for allegations of human rights infractions, these are often not accurate and exaggerated in order to illicit outrage.
The only time Israel sets foot in Palestinian areas is when a killing or terrorist attack took place and they are looking for the killer. Or if there is a protest and stones, Molotov cocktails and the like are being thrown at them. In that case anyone has a right to defend themselves by shooting back. You would do the same.
As for the land issue, the land 100% belongs to Israel. They have continually inhabited it for the last 3200 years at least! The conquering Muslims took over for a long time with successive incursions. But the Jews were always there. Not in mass number but certainly in the thousands. It’s their land.
The Palestinians never existed as a people group or nation. They are Arabs, Egyptians and Lebanese (and mixes thereof) which came in the late 1800’s. They just wandered into Jewish land and plonked themselves wherever they wished. Now they say it’s their land. Bullshit! It’s always been Jewish land but they were colonized by the Muslims. The Jews are the natives, not these wanderers.
They should return to where they came from. And from what I’ve seen that’s exactly what Israel is planning to do: drive them south into the desert and from there to the surrounding country’s. Gaza will be leveled and Jewish once again.
The Jews are fed up of putting up with these foreigners and just want them out. I imagine.
filister@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So how old are you again? After claiming that I was the one who needs to grow up. Seriously, your reasoning is similar to a 16-years old.
You say you don’t want them to die and in the next sentence you are justifying Israel killing them. Shall I also mention that there are plenty of people in Israel, including your parliament who are cheering on civilans being killed in Gaza, or settlers illegally evicting or killing Palestinians from their homes/land. What about them?
Then telling me that settlers violence is all fine just because this land was historically being Jewish. So international borders don’t matter to you. So what about Australia, you know Aborigines were living there, so shall we evict al Australian of not Aboriginal roots on the ground that this land wasn’t belonging to them.
And comparing Palestine with school bully is exactly the opposite of the reality, where Israel is in fact the bully, who is by the way all the time getting a pass no matter what they do. But yes, keep living in your parallel reality. Look at the number of casualties on both sides historically. Even of kids and women. Look at the number of kids killed by Israeli forces or imprisoned without effective sentence.
I don’t know where you get your propaganda from but I don’t know anyone who is more biased than you. I am mostly reading the BBC which in my opinion are relatively impartial with a slight bias towards Israel. I can only assume that you are consuming content of Media with a huge bias.
I am just going to leave this here: www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67121414
danielfgom@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s war. It’s tragic that people are dying and children orphaned. Tragic. But sadly that’s what happens in war. In WW2 the UK bombed the daylights out of Dresden and it places. 2 MILLION innocent civilians were killed by this bombing alone.
Back then nobody bat and eyelid but today they’d call it massacre. Or would they? It seems only when Jews fight in a war that it’s called massacre or genocide, but when others do it, it’s fine.
Over the last few years Muslims have massacred close to a million other Muslims through the various wars in the middle east. Arab Vs Arab. Did you make posts on social media calling for the stopping of the massacre? No? Why not? Why only now when at most a few thousand have died, and that because Hamas was firing rockets directly out of those families homes
You have double standards.
filister@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ah yes, repeating the same talking point to excuse your massacre with past massacres. You really are a wicked human being if you think this would justify what Israel is doing in Gaza.
The truth is that Israel long lost the credibility of this war.
Where is the source of your claim that Arabs killed 1Mln other Arabs. I am curious to see your copium. And all those humanitarian agencies and human rights organizations are all united against Israel, right? When everyone is telling you that you are wrong and you still think that you are right is perhaps a good time for self reflection.
Have you seen any pictures from Gaza? Or all of those independently verified pictures, satellite imagery are all fake and targeting Israel, correct? Israel really like portraying themselves as the sole victims, while refusing to admit that they are very much gullible.