That’s great. Half of America needs a 15k car. That’s the magic number for Mass adoption.
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Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months agoThe Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are both under $30k, and there’s a Mini Cooper that’s just barely over $30k. There’s only 1 other car from Chevy that’s cheaper than the Bolt, and only 2 models from Mini cheaper than their EV. Nissan seems to be a leader with cheap cars, with 6 cheaper models than the Leaf. When you add in the tax rebates for buying electric that reduces the price an additional $7500.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
And where are you going to find any new car in the US for $15k? The average cost of a new car in the US this year was over $40k, and there are several EV options available for practically anyone in the market for a new car.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Kia Forte Hyundai Venue Nissan Versa Mitsubishi Mirage Kia Rio Kia Soul
Cars aren’t supposed to cost more than half your annual income. Half the country makes less than 36k a year. The domestic auto makers are trying to hide behind inflation for their price increases, but their record profits tell us they aren’t just raising prices with cost.
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
2024 Kia Forte $19,790 Starting MSRP - www.kia.com/us/en/forte 2024 Hyundai Venue $19,800 Starting MSRP - www.hyundaiusa.com/us/en/vehicles/venue 2024 Nissan Versa $16,130 Starting MSRP - www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/cars/versa-sedan.html 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage $16,695 Starting MSRP - www.mitsubishicars.com/cars-and-suvs/mirage 2023 Kia Rio $16,750 Starting MSRP - www.kia.com/us/en/rio (There isn’t a 2024 version as this model has been dropped) 2024 Kia Soul $19,990 Starting MSRP - www.kia.com/us/en/soul
Which of these cars that you listed are $15k? The Chevy Bolt EV is less than half the cars you listed when you look at the base price ($26,500) minus the Federal Tax Credit ($7,500).
The original comment I replied to said that “there is not a single affordable EV” in the US and I listed 3 that are under the average cost for any new cars in the US. Then you claimed that EVs need to be $15k in order to reach mass adoption, even though there are no new cars available in the US at that price. You can argue that cars are priced too high, or the car companies are making too much money, but the fact is that for anyone in the market for a new car, there are EVs available in every new car price range.
blazera@kbin.social 9 months ago
Just 20k more to go to compete with what chinese drivers have access to.
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Well yeah. We have safety laws. You cant build a car out of chinesium and have it pass US Safety tests.
blazera@kbin.social 9 months ago
You know whats safe? A smaller, cheaper engine with a lower top speed. I dont need hundreds of miles of range and 100mph top speed
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Well you need a strong engine to get up to speed in a decent amount of time, and to go up hills full loaded. You also need tall gears for fuel efficiency. Combined, it means almost every production car can go 100+ mph.
Also range? Thats just a gas tank. A 10 gallon gas tank will take most small cars 300 miles, its not a lot. Why focus on range? Seems weird to me.
Yoddel_Hickory@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
As if American cars had any reputation for reliability XD