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Supposedly the federation is a lot more diverse than humans with weird ears, noses or foreheads. Just that the old shows did not really have the budget and / or ability to make convincing, actually alien looking species. TAS can get around this by being a cartoon, modern shows use plenty of animation.

But even in TNG is a running joke about the cetacean officers that are always off screen of course. But supposedly there is a whole part of the ship under water where intelligent dolphins are doing their duties as crew members.

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bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
There’s a running joke in DS9 about Dax having a thing for a man with a transparent head (so you can see his brain stuff). But of course we never meet this guy because they didn’t have the CGI to actually make that.

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- GoodbyeBlueMonday@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  They would have had the money and time for the CGI if they didn’t spend so much in footage for all of Morn’s damn monologues.
  
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- GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Ah right, thats a great example too. Also the elusive tholian ambassador who is referenced a bunch of times
  
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Routhinator@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
And they are finally shown in Lower Decks

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gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Until ENT, the Andorians were kind of a joke/throwaway faction. Their original costumes were, shall we say, phoning it in. Blue paint, a very obviously antenna headband, some weird poncho things, and that’s kinda it. AFAIK, they weren’t ever shown on-screen at any time between TOS and ENT.

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- themoken@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Andorians are shown at least once in TNG… Lal has an Andorian appearance in the running when choosing her non-android avatar.
  
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  - gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    ok fair. But at the same time… I would not call that an improvement on the TOS rendition.
    
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    themoken@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Hahaha, definitely not
    
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constantokra@lemmy.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
How have I watched TNG so many times and missed this? I’m sure one of you knows an episode reference off the top of your head. Care to share it?

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- GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I don’t know the episode name, but I recall them being mentioned during the metamorph episode, I think she is named kamara or something.
  
  At one point the ferengi (who try to steal her and have infiltrated the ship for that purpose) try to chat up captain Picard and the ambassador who is caring for her, Geordi takes them away to “show them the dolphins”.
  
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  - constantokra@lemmy.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Perfect mate, or something like that. I’ll have to rewatch it soon.
    
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