Comment on There's no money for education and health care but they'll always find some for war.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 11 months agoMore than a million is “millions”. And if we’re talking about total historical deaths attributable then the US has the USSR beat by a lot. Neoliberal capitalism is just as bloodthirsty as state capitalism, except the US had more time and power to kill people.
greenmarty@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t think you anyone can beat Russia’s and all of it’s forms death toll in 20th+21th century.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
They said Soviet so you’removing the goalposts, and I think if you really believe that Russia is worse then you need to educate yourself on US foreign interventions.
William Blum map of US interventions, out of date
Russia is bad, but they haven’t had nearly the global influence the US has had over the last century. The US is singularly militarily dominant. Any claims about other countries being bigger or badder is just fearmongering propaganda.
If we expand the scope to proxy wars then the US would have to be responsible for more deaths than any other single entity in human history.
greenmarty@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They said Soviet territory . It is vague form of point to “Russia & company” among else witch BTW even during Soviet era had causee millions of people to die. Difference is though your comrades kept it secret while US made a lots of their shit public over the years. You have no idea what they did in under the wing of east block if you talk like that.
Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
First of all, don’t call them my comrades. The people I’d consider comrades in that area, the anarchists, were betrayed and slaughtered by the USSR. A tankie wouldn’t call the USSR “state capitalist” as I did.
Secondly, if you’re referring to the victims as counted by the black book of communism, you know they counted hypothetical babies that might have otherwise been born in their victim tally? And they also counted Nazi combatants? It’s an absolutely shameful work of revisionism, and the only reason it exists is to put smoke up as cover for the crimes of western capitalist imperialism.
And thirdly, are you saying that by “Soviet territory” they were referring to all former eastern bloc countries past and present? What an absolutely wild thing to say. That is bizarre.