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• mightyfoolish@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Are you implying other countries don’t have train stations? They just stop at each individual houses because it’s a small country?

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  • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No, obviously not. But they also don’t have stations in rural areas where there are houses with many miles between. At least not within walking or biking range.

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    • frezik@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s nice. It’s a small percentage of the population, and getting smaller. They can keep using cars if they want. We don’t need to hold back all other progress on their account.

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      • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Cool, of course that has nothing to do with the original argument….

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    • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To be honest, I do see where you are coming from. If we had public transportation as good as our network of roads, people would have incentives to cluster up in the first place.

      Shape defines function and function defines form. In this case that means the public transit would be built near the denser populations which will then cause people to move closer to the transport I on for ease of moving goods. It’s why these other countries look the way they do, they didn’t plan these out 3000 years in advance.

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  • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Other countries are no percent of the size of the US. The entire Indian subcontinent can fit on our eastern seaboard with room to spare.

    The US is big, and has a lot of cities. We have an enormous amount of existing road infrastructure. We are not going to stop using all of that infrastructure any time soon - that’s just reality.

    You’re acting like this change would be “just build trains lol” and that couldn’t be more incorrect.

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    • frezik@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We built those highways over the last 70 years, with most of the work done in the first decade or two of that timespan. These decisions are not immutable laws of nature. They can be undone if we determine they are bad, and they pretty clearly are.

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I have not seen a convincing argument that highways are bad. Do you have a link on that?

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    • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If we built trains we would start at the most densest areas. Most of these would move people (subways). This builds more railway tracks that could aslo send goods to rural arras as well.

      The trains would do 2 things. One would most likely start clustering people together do to the ease of use of having more railways. Second, it creates more economic opprunties for the rural folks (like having a means to work in the city more or just having a way to sell goods) could cause enough economic success for buses.

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      • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m all about both jacking up density and expanding mass transport any way we can in urban areas. It’s got to creep out from there though. We can’t just wipe the slate clean and start over in a decade.

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• force@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  … you’ve never heard of bikes, or legs, or car sharing like in e.g. the Netherlands if you need to transport stuff? you don’t need to own a car, it’s unnecessarily expensive and bad for literally everything

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  • SCB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    you don’t need to own a car, it’s unnecessarily expensive and bad for literally everything

    This is a completely unrealistic scenario for the overwhelming majority of Americans

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