Comment on Disability pensioner charged $6,760 for renting a phone that retails for around $1,800

• wahming@monyet.cc ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Onus is on you to provide proof if you’re alleging that it does.

  At no point did I allege that, so no.

  The government could very much keep them solvent

  Doubt. They’ll find some other money trap to fall into in a week unless they’re taught to actually be smarter about their finances.

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  • BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Doubt. They’ll find some other money trap to fall into in a week unless they’re taught to actually be smarter about their finances.

    ”Poor people are poor because of their inferior nature” Fuck off.

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    • wahming@monyet.cc ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You could do with some lessons in reading comprehension.

      “Poor people are poor because they’ve never had the chance to learn how to manage money, and I suggest teaching them.”

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      • Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sure, poor people are poor because there’s one specific piece of magical knowledge that they were never taught. Nothing to do with structural socioeconomic forces that keep people poor so that their labor can be more cheaply exploited.

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      • UlyssesT@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Your vague sanctimonious calls for “education” can do absolutely nothing for people that already been ripped off, so your sermons are especially condescending to people already ripped off and fucked over by business criminals that you keep making excuses for.

        Because of your “fuck the poor, fuck the disabled, get ‘educated’” mantras, I assume your idea of “education” would be grifty privatized schools that are themselves a grift. Just grifts all the way down, because you’re running interference from the start for why it is cool and good to rip off disabled people until they can supposedly clear some “education” hurdle that you’d set up in front of people with Alzheimer’s, Dementia, and much much more.

        Just admit you’re LARPing as Patrick Bateman. It’d be less cringe at this point. bateman-ontological

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      • BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s just the same thing I wrote, basically. You’re still saying it’s their own fault that poor people are poor, except with an extra veneer of condescension.

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      • Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Why do I always end up reading so deeply into these threads started by fucking ghouls who seriously believe poor people are poor because they’re just too stupid to understand how money works? I should have backed off when I saw how deep this goes, but no, I must hate myself, because here I am, having just read your ridiculous comment how some sort of nebulous “education” will solve poverty somehow. Fuck off until you learn some damn empathy. I hope you end up neck deep in debt through no fault of your own.

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  • UlyssesT@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Doubt. They’ll find some other money trap to fall into in a week unless they’re taught to actually be smarter about their finances.

    So you’re saying nothing should ever even be attempted because the status quo is as good as it gets (because you got yours) and apathy makes you feel cool and smart? nerd

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    • BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The market (and people out to make a quick buck) will always move faster than the govt can respond.

      ”The market” will do this anyway so we shouldn’t do anything smuglord galaxy-brain

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      • UlyssesT@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “Get educated! and if you don’t, or if you have any disability that makes that ‘education’ impossible, fuck you. If you don’t get ‘educated’ before my holy advocacy somehow conjures up schools to educate you, fuck you. If you can’t afford those schools. Fuck you. Basically just fuck you.” capitalist-laugh

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    • wahming@monyet.cc ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      nothing should ever even be attempted … apathy

      I certainly feel smarter in comparison to you. I’ve been advocating education the entire thread, and you’re claiming that I just want the status quo.

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      • UlyssesT@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I certainly feel smarter in comparison to you.

        You haven’t expressed your Dunning-Kruger exceptionalism in any way I can tell, except Reddit-tier signal markers like hatred of the poor, the disabled, and the otherwise disadvantaged.

        I’ve been advocating education the entire thread

        “Education” with the implication that anyone that fails that vague “advocacy” and anyone who is fucked over before your “advocacy” has any results should just suffer and get ripped off by ghouls like yourself.

        and you’re claiming that I just want the status quo.

        Because that is the status quo, you disgusting clown.

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  • Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    At no point did I allege that, so no.

    You have been consistently been alleging that the woman in question could have easily checked the total cost of her payments, which you have just declined to provide proof for. I will take this as a concession from you on this point and move on.

    Doubt. They’ll find some other money trap to fall into in a week unless they’re taught to actually be smarter about their finances.

    This is an unfalsifiable counterfactual and I will dismiss it without further comment.

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    • wahming@monyet.cc ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You have been consistently been alleging that the woman in question could have easily checked the total cost of her payments

      Yes? When faced with a ‘deal’ where you know the regular installment payment and the length of said debt, how difficult is it to figure out how much you need to pay by the end of it? Especially when everybody has a calculator in their pockets at every waking moment. If the answer is ‘too difficult’, I’m taking that as more reason for the education approach.

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      • Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And you know that no information was deliberately obfuscated or hidden by the vendor? The vendor currently being sued by regulators for operating a business model “designed to avoid consumer protections for financially vulnerable consumers.”?

        Curious as to how you know this information. Do you have a copy of the court filings? Please feel free to share if you do.

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