I understand as a fellow atheist, but I would just say try to have some compassion for people as a whole, even if they believe in stupid sky daddys.
They chose for religious reasons to slowly invade and genocide a people in an area that was extremely hostile to them.
Historically Jewish people have been given land in Spain and Italy to found their own nation. Both times they sold it and invaded Israel in history.
I have zero sympathy for them, because historically, they’ve been the invading aggressors to the region because they feel they have some sort of religious right to it, and since I’m anti-theist and believe religion is the root of all evil seeing both sides die in this conflict is kind of desirable to me.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Phanlix@lemmy.world 7 months ago
After what I went through at the hands of my ultra religious parents, at the hands of the Catholic church I went to, and finally at the hands of the conversion therapy religious camp I was imprisoned in, I can tell you right now I have absolutely zero capacity for any compassion for any believer what so ever.
If I could press a button and kill them all I’d do it in a heartbeat. No believer deserves even the tiniest iota of your sympathy or compassion. I promise you one atheist to another, they feel the same way about you.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I feel for your experiences but again want to stress that not all of them are unsaveable, many were just born into it and brainwashed throughout their lifetime and never actually given any alternative.
I used to be a very angry atheist as well, and I will definitely still debate theists and point out the idiocy in religion, but I also don’t particularly blame them for being that way.
Obviously there are many examples of shit people who wield it to hurt others, as you’ve clearly experienced, but they’re not all like that, and were not going to win any/many over by saying we want them all to die, even if I agree that the world would be better off if religion didn’t exist.
A common one I see is the “how can you have morals without religion” which… Ugh but people literally often aren’t ever given an opposing viewpoint in a reasonable and rational manner.
Anyway, hope you’re better in life after getting away from that garbage.
Phanlix@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It literally says it’s good to kill atheists in their holy book, regardless of which abrahamic religion you choose. And while, yes, Christians, Muslims, and Jews can pick and choose what they follow, but in the case of Muslims, clearly you have to see the threat. If you don’t recognize the potential, or hear how they demonize atheists, I really can’t help you. You can allow yourself to be lulled into a false sense of security by some of them that pretend to be better, but I won’t.
SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Children get indoctrinated into Islam and Judaism and inherit this conflict and its derived suffering from their parents. As an anti-theist, you should be able to see them as victims, rather than see the conflict as something positive.
Phanlix@lemmy.world 7 months ago
How does that track?
Those kids have zero chance of growing up as anything other than the religion they’re raised in under even normal circumstances.
The one good thing out of all of this, is at the end of the day there’s that many less believers in the world.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
You can definitely edit religion even growing up in a heavily religious environment, it seems you did in your own experience right?
I grew up in Texas surrounded by Christians, while I was lucky enough that both my parents are… Not religious per-say (but maybe deist?) I wasn’t forced into religion either, I went to church many times with family and friends but never really “bought it” and eventually ended up as an atheist. My wife was Christian when we met and eventually also came over to atheism eventually after many many discussions and videos and evidence etc… people can be deconverted, it just takes a lot.
I think the Internet helped me to not fall into the trap personally, and definitely helped with getting my wife out of it.