Nope, still a privacy nightmare
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ArtificialLink@lemmy.ca 11 months agoI mean this is gotta be on the newest Internet connected cars right? Cause like aint no way my 2017 ford focus has that many “privacy issues” it doesn’t even have android auto lol.
NotSoCoolWhip@lemmy.world 11 months ago
ArtificialLink@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Go ahead and explain. Cuz there’s nothing internet connected on my car.
rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
My parent’s Hyundai had no customer-facing internet-related features on the car. Still had a cellular radio for telematics. A potential tell is an SOS button. (That’s a non-issue since it’s 3G now and that went bye-bye but 4G is going to be around a while)
But my similar age Sorento had nothing that I could find. So it’s possible.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Ford started shipping all of their cars with one in 2015. I linked an article showing that somewhere up there. I’ll edit to post it here too.
NotSoCoolWhip@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I could waste my time explaining or you could Google it. Long story short is that there are many ways to send information that don’t involve the internet at all, and you’d have to get a mid 90s car if you didn’t want any data sent at all. They got worse in around 2012 when more protocols were added as well
ArtificialLink@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I could waste my time explaining or you could Google it.
Sounds to me like you’re talking out your ass. Otherwise you could just explain it instead of telling me to google it. You did “waste your time” by even responding at all.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Has what’s called a Telematics Control Unit. And that thing phones home. It’s basically a wifi modem.
ArtificialLink@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
No it does not. Some models may. But mine does not. Also, as far as I understand you would have to have like a cellular connection or something for your car to phone home anywhere? And not only is that not a service offered on my car? . It would also mean someone has to maintain that device and ensure it’s communicating basically 24/7 . I mean who’s paying for the cell service. Is it running on 3G which is defunct now? If I even had one How can it phone home? I don’t understand.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yes. A lot of cars and car manufacturers include. Telematics Control Unit (a Cellular wifi modem) in their vehicles.
forbes.com/…/ford-steps-into-the-vehicle-telemati…
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 11 months ago
If people really cared about privacy and their cars and were serious about solving it, disabling the telematics control unit or the cellular modem would resolve this issue pretty quickly. None of the cars on the road today need internet connectivity to function.
However, if they have built-in Google maps or navigation system, well that’s always going to be a privacy issue right? This is no different than having GPS and maps on your phone.
Judging by the lack of tik Tok videos on how to disable your car’s cell modem, I’m guessing this isn’t that big of an issue for people.
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 11 months ago
As these cards age out, the cellular standard that they support will be eventually dropped and then they won’t work. Just like owning an old cell phone.