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Suoko@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Android and ChromeOS are also ignored :-D However, I hope you don’t want to talk about operating systems cause now everybody just talk about AI :-/

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jack@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Android is good. ChromeOS is just normal linux turned against the user

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- ttmrichter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I’m intrigued at this notion that ChromeOS is Linux turned against the user but Android isn’t…
  
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  - jack@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I’m thinking about pure Android which is open source. I could’ve written that better…
    
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- Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Android is pretty turned against the end user also, their sideloading permissions seem to be explicitly designed to annoy or scare people out of using it, and in my opinion isn’t really needed because we had the one toggle and it’s not like it grants the apps permission to install the apps themselves, it just allows you to click a button. It’s a process designed to add more steps to frustrate the user.
  
  That doesn’t even mention many of the under the hood changes made over the years to worsen user experience, like preventing or making difficult internal audio recording.
  
  Then there’s the whole anti-root thing, which honestly shouldn’t even be a thing in the first place, if you’re going to claim phones are like computers why aren’t they open like them? I do not and will not buy the “security” argument because even windows allows you to delete the entire registry with enough persistence, but on android you have to either get permission from OEM or use an exploit to install root before getting that access.
  
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  - jack@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Okay, Linux phones will be the absolute freedom and make Android obsolete. Once the phones are mature enough
    
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    Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Only if they don’t fall into the same hole android fell into. Many early linux phones use locked down BIOS or Bootloaders (I remember seeing a video of one where the person couldn’t restore it because they didn’t have the software). So they’ll be absolute freedom only if they ship with Coreboot/UEFI Booting, otherwise they’re no better.
    
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