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• SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Using “freely given” and “profits” in the same sentence should’ve set alarms as to how the issue might be more complex than just who buys what from who.

  You are wrong and a simple research into the subject reveals how.

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  • BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    jfc i was hoping you weren’t gonna choose to be an idiotic pedant but here we are.

    the us government signs incredibly expensive contracts with weapons manufacturers. aka “buys weapons.” then gives those weapons to its allies. vox.com/…/dc-party-invite-military-contractors-mo…

    wtf do you think these votes in the senate about giving military aid mean? the idea that paying defense contractors to replenish our arsenal is somehow funding local infrastructure is utterly deranged.

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    • SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Good lord you’re infuriatingly stupid. That isn’t at all the subject of the article I linked, and you didn’t even read my comment!? “The game of define words” is a game YOU played, not me, moron, by conflating 2 sentences about “freely given” and “profits” without thinking for even a fraction of a second about WHO the weapons are being given to, and WHO is making the profits!

        Enough with the “do your own research” bullshit. Either explain yourself or fuck off.

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      • jarfil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I literally work in the business and know a thing or two on how these aid contracts are written.

        I only know about the “ink printer” or “Gillette” aspect of the aid contracts. How does the money get back to fixing potholes? You mean through taxes on the consumables?

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  • bassomitron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The bread and butter of the US Military Industrial Complex is selling weapons/platforms/systems to other governments. Yes, US contractors can’t just directly sell weapons/etc to other countries (without express permission/case by case basis).

    What the person you replied to said is accurate: The US is giving these weapons to Ukraine “for free” (i.e. nothing is ever truly free, Ukraine will end up paying for it one way or another if they come out victorious in the end). However, the DoD is still paying the defense contractors who manufacturer these weapons (unless it’s ammunition and certain types of munitions, which the DoD actually makes themselves).

    Regardless, I agree that it is a bit complex, but not that complex. The US Military Industrial Complex is well documented and proven, not sure why you’re acting like the US being the world’s largest arms dealer isn’t what it is.

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    • SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • bassomitron@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I literally have colleagues working the Ukraine program within the Army. But whatever, I’m sure the people actively working all of those packages have no idea what the fuck they’re talking about.

        Anyway, I responded politely and you responded like a complete asshat, so I’ll no longer continue this conversation. Maybe grow up and act like an adult rather than pretend to be some sort of expert with zero sources to back up any of your claims (I didn’t ask for any, but I see in other comments here when others pressed for them, you instead responded with equal rudeness and incompetence).

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