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Comment on John Howard says he ‘always had trouble’ with the concept of multiculturalism

Hegar@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

The man's a deeply committed white supremacist and that's the context of him "having trouble" with multiculturalism.

John Howard's whole appeal was being the goody-looking face of brutalizing anyone not white.

He jailed refugees in the desert for years without them having committed any crimes. For most of his tenure an "Australian style immigration system" was explicitly being called for by neo-nazis and far right groups in Europe.

He violated international law and risked the lives of over 400 people on a Norwegian ship the Tampa, specifically so he could lie about it to drum up a racist invasion narrative before an election. And use that as a pretext for an insanely more brutal policy of detaining refugees in concentration camps on tiny islands.

He thinks there should be fewer asian australians in the interest of "social cohesion".

He hates aboriginal people - he dissolved the only government body that represented aboriginal Australians. He denied the genocide we committed against them. He held firm against the majority of the country who wanted to acknowledge the wrong we did in stealing aboriginal children from their families.

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muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Calling him a deeply committed white supremacist might be a little of an exaggeration.

If he was a committed white supremacist then the goal with refugees and immigrants would be don’t let em in/kill them all, however I’ve made a handy little plot of all Permanent additions over his entire prime ministerial carrier.

here This is by every country blue one at the top is the total doesn’t look like white supremacy to me (the 2 with hard drop-offs 2001-2002 are both a result of the kiwis). 1

Don’t know what he said about Asians but I’ve heard one in three Chinese at university is a spy either by choice or coercion.

The genocide debate I believe was because he doesn’t see the stolen generation as genocide its a definition issue and by that logic and the definition of a genocide below it doesn’t technically count (sounds like a greasy politician weaseling his way out of a difficult situation by technicality). 2

genocide /jĕn′ə-sīd″/ noun

The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group. The systematic killing of a racial or cultural group. "the Nazi genocide of Jews left few in Germany or Poland after World War II" Similar: race murder racial extermination The systematic killing of substantial numbers of people on the basis of ethnicity, religion, political opinion, social status, or other particularity.

However the united nations includes this line: forcibly transferring children out of the group. So long answer is it depends on what definition your using.

By the definition he is technically correct.

None of this is in any way defending him or even saying that he isn’t a white supremacist just though that your representation or more likely the headlines from what the guardian said his legacy was is a little misleading.

Also who are you to say that his beliefs haven’t changed since when he was in office I would like to think that all people are developing and improving their own ideas throughout the entirety of their lives.
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- shermozle@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  a handy little plot of all Permanent additions over his entire prime ministerial carrier
  
  This man’s primary religion was keeping getting re-elected at all costs. Immigration kept the economy going well, so he was for it. Just didn’t talk about it.
  
  Don’t know what he said about Asians but I’ve heard one in three Chinese at university is a spy either by choice or coercion.
  
  [citation required]
  
  Howard dying will be a great day.
  
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  - muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Does it feel good wishing death upon someone?
    
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    shermozle@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    This man changed Australia for the far worse. So yeah, it feels fine.
    
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- unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Don’t know what he said about Asians but I’ve heard one in three Chinese at university is a spy either by choice or coercion.
  
  That is complete speculation and likely rubbish. A source would be nice
  
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Nonameuser678@aussie.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
He also suspended the racial discrimination act to implement the NT intervention which saw the army called in to police Aboriginal communities. This also saw the implementation of income quarantining measures aimed specifically at Indigenous Australians, which would serve as the foundation for cashless welfare card policies moving forward.

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inanna@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Local man yells on tram

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