I’m willing to pay a fair rate for a fair search
Best I can do is you paying me and I still give you ads mixed in.
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heavy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I’m over the era of ads dominating our lives. I know not everyone can do so, but I’m willing to pay a fair rate for a fair search and AI service. If we have to continue to live in this system then I think we should better enable competition in the tech space and stop some of these mafia business monopoly tactics.
Some companies are just disgustingly greedy. I pay for a new TV, for example, and that thing is trying to download ads and report my usage non-stop and I paid fairly to own the device. I’d support any political party that actually wants to protect consumers from the nonsense business pull.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 months ago
VitulusAureus@kbin.social 11 months ago
If you'd be happy paying for ad-free search and AI experience, consider Kagi.
bh64@lemm.ee 11 months ago
yet another Kagi shiller.
they are still pulling results from Bing. they are partially powered by their own engine, but it has a minor database of sites when compared to Bing.
And needing to have an account is just horrible for privacy.
nooj@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No it’s not horrible for privacy it’s literally just for billing which payment can be made anonymously too. They don’t even verify the email address you use. So much misinformation in this thread. Go Google your info before you present it as fact.
bh64@lemm.ee 11 months ago
it is a fact. you have to be logged in to do a search or use an API key which directly associates your search query with your account.
Let’s say you don’t give them a real email, that’s good. Maybe you’re using Tor or a VPN and they don’t get your IP. And somehow you manage to make your payment anonymously. That’s great.
Well, Kagi is still getting all your search queries which are directly associated with one account. We don’t have their server’s code. We don’t know how or what are they login. They can claim whatever in their privacy policy, I don’t care. A single entity is receiving all your search queries directly linked to your pseudonymous account. This gives them a vast amount of data about the person using it, even if they do not know who you are, probably very sensitive information too.
Let’s make a huge assumption and assume they are not correlating your search queries and they do not use this information for anything. Well, a third party actor with access to their servers could very well make use of this vast amount of personal data, whether it is a government, their hosting provider, a malicious actor, a security breach, etc.
And that’s considering the best case in which you were covering your tracks hiding your IP all the time and making anonymous payments, which, being honests, most Kagi users don’t do. So yeah, Kagi is a privacy nightmare.
long_chicken_boat@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
wtf that was not misinformation. you need to be logged in when making searches, they can log everything you search server-side and tie it to the same person.
every time I search something in SearXNG they have no way of telling I’m the same person if my IP has changed. but this is impossible with Kagi. they need to know your account.
they have basically 0 transparency of their server side, we don’t have any code. It’s like trusting a VPN provider not to log your every connection because “trust me, bro”. this is a necessary risk for using a VPN but not for search engines and I wouldn’t recommend anyone to take such a risk when better alternatives exist.
heavy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Thanks for pointing that out, I’ve been trialing their service and so far I think it works well.
vpklotar@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Been using Kagi for about a month now and can confidently say that it’s the best search engine I’ve used in the last few years, including Google. Will for sure renew and continue to use it, highly recommend it!
Fungah@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Kagi has a lot of room to improve but it’s still far better thab Google / Bing.
I think Sunday prichai, and the entire executive team at google, should be brought up on charges of crimes against humanity for what they’ve done to our access to infirmstion.
The judges will be the gods. We give them a specific piece of info they need to find with one Google search. If they can get it in the first try, they move onto the next round. If not then they lose a limb. 7 rounds. If they fail four times: no more limbs. If they fail five times they lose their head.
Whether they live or die is entirely up to their own ability to use their own search engine, and that search engines ability to do what is fucking supposed to.
Of course every one of them will end up headless. But that’s the point isn’t it?