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pete_the_cat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• iAmTheTot@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That is one of the areas of the game they specifically worked on to improve. There's dev diaries about how they improved it.

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  • pete_the_cat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nice, I remember that being a huge issue in the original with many people complaining about it

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    • Psythik@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You could fix it somewhat with mods, by forcing cars to take specific lanes. Didn’t solve the problem, but it helped. Can’t wait to try the new traffic AI in the sequel.

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• Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Widening roads is never a good answer in game or real life, it induces new demand and will eventually become more contested. Need to build a train line instead

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  • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I understand what you’re getting at, but even cities with lots of public transit get choked with traffic in CS1. The traffic AI is abysmal.

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    • Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Have you tried the expansion pack where you can be car free with Plazas and places?

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      • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes. Still choked with traffic. You can’t get rid of cars completely.

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• snooggums@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sounds realistic though.

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• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  do you actually think just adding lanes will infinitely increase the capacity of roads?

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  • stankmut@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It does increase the capacity of roads. Two lanes holds twice as many cars as one lane. Four lanes hold twice as many cars as two lanes.

    You’re probably thinking of induced demand, but that’s related to traffic congestion and not capacity. More lanes ultimately means more cars are getting places, but any individual car will see that congestion is just as bad as it used to be.

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      yeah see what’s happening here is that you’re completely ignoring junctions: even in the ideal case of a completely straight road you still need junctions to get on and off the road, which will put a hard limit on throughput.

      This is why traffic in america is miserable, the traffic engineers fail to recognize that you can’t just put businesses right next to roads as that will cause stupendous amounts of choking every time someone wants to pop in for some mcdonalds.

      3 lanes in each direction is about the most you’ll ever need, which is what you’ll tend to see on big highways in europe. And really most of the time you’ll do just fine with 2 lanes.

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      • SwampYankee@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This is why traffic in america is miserable, the traffic engineers fail to recognize that you can’t just put businesses right next to roads as that will cause stupendous amounts of choking every time someone wants to pop in for some mcdonalds.

        Yeah, fuckin’ Americans, putting their McDonald’s right next to roads… I mean, just look at this. What a disgrace.

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      • stankmut@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I actually had a whole paragraph about junctions being a limit and then deleted it since i didn’t feel like it added to my point. I also was going to add a point about how much space the lanes take up and that even if more lanes added capacity, it didn’t necessarily mean they were the right option.

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  • pete_the_cat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah… That’s how these things work ya know. A 4 lane road has higher capacity than a 2 lane road assuming there arent any choke points.

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    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      yeah uh, i think you’ll find that you need junctions, which create chokepoints?

      even with highways you get chokepoints at the ramps, and they are extremely absurdly costly.

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    • sigh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      just 1 more lane bro

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• Psythik@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This article on their website goes into detail on exactly how they’re planning on fixing the traffic issues. The AI will actually change lanes this time!

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