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Shgrizz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
No, it’s because the main thing teslas had going for them is that they were cool. That is no longer the case.
If you can choose between, a BMW, a Mercedes, or any high end brand when you buy electric, why would you get a tesla? Then it’s the exact same for the budget. They used to be the only good option, they’re not anymore.
Then there’s the fact that if you buy a tesla you associate with Musk.
I dislike Elon as much as the next guy, but this just isn’t true.
The charging infrastructure for Teslas is miles above the rest for much of the world. The electric drive trains are some of the most efficient and long lasting. And outside of America their pricing is quite competitive.
I’m totally with you on the charging (and don’t have one myself) but as for the drivetrain, is one really that much more efficient than another? There’s not a lot of energy lost to heat, noise, and whatever else that ICEs have. Most of it is in (for example) the body’s aerodynamics, no? And as far as how long they last, most of them are about 10 years old, tops? Hard to judge that one just yet (yeah, the Leafs suck already but they don’t have a battery management system)
totally with you on the charging (and don’t have one myself) but as for the drivetrain, is one really that much more efficient than another? There’s not a lot of energy lost to heat, noise, and whatever else that ICEs have. Most of it is in (for example) the body’s aerodynamics, no? And as far as how long they last, most of them are about 10 years old, tops? Hard to judge that one just yet (yeah, the Leafs suck already but they don’t have a battery management system)
There are a lot of variables that affect it, but Tesla do extremely well here with things like the octovalve and heat scavenging for their AC system. Combine this with the relatively high fast charging speed means range gets added back quickly. About the only company that’s competitive in terms of efficiency and charging speed is Hyundai/Kia at the moment.
You can compare similar cars here. For example:
Sedans: Tesla Model 3 RWD: 137 Wh/km Hyundai Ioniq 6: 148 Wh/km Polestar 2 SR: 172 Wh/km VW ID.3: 166 Wh/km BMW i4: 156 Wh/km
SUV: Telsa Model Y RWD: 164 Wh/km Hyundai Ioniq 5: 183 Wh/km VW ID.4: 177 Wh/km BMW iX3: 192 Wh/km BYD Atto3: 183 Wh/km
I like them but their worth like half of what they ask. Also why are they so fucking large hello model 2 plese. European roads don’t fit american monsters.
This is actually very relevant I agree.
Spellinbee@lemmy.world 11 months ago
100% that, plus more competition.
There was a point where I had planned on getting a tesla for my next car, but now I’m avoiding it like the plague.
Wogi@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Next year? I think. A few manufacturers will adopt Tesla’s charging platform as standard, effectively creating a North American standard and giving Tesla the W. But this is a good thing, Tesla’s supercharger stations are the only ones that consistently work. The cars are garbage, but they got the charging thing down. So if you’re in the market now, maybe wait for that change to drop. In the short term it’s via an adapter but in the next few years you’ll be able to plug your car directly in to the Tesla stations.