Comment on Youtube's Anti-adblock is illegal in the EU
Tavarin@lemmy.ca 11 months agoIt about device detection and privacy. Websites in the EU aren’t allowed to scan your hardware or software without your permission, to protect the users privacy. Adblockers fall under this.
Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If thats how it works, they could very easily just check if the ad ever got loaded and refuse to serve you content until it does. Going after the way they prevent people from abusing their services doesn’t stop them from preventing them - it just gives them a new hurdle and that’s not a very big one.
variaatio@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Well many advlockers can be clever enough to load the asset, but then just drop it. As in yeah the ad image got downloaded to browser, but then the page content got edited to drop the display of the add or turn it to not shown asset in css.
This is age old battle. Site owners go you must do X or no media. However then ad blocker just goes “sure we do that, bit then we just ghost the ad to the user”.
Some script needs to be loaded, that would display the ad? All the parts of the script get executed and… then CSS intervention just ghosts the ad that should be playing and so on.
Since the browser and extension are in ultimate control. As said the actual add video might be technically “playing” in the back ground going through motions, but it’s a no show, no audio player… ergo in practice the ad was blocked, while technically completely executed.
Hence why they want to scan for the software, since only way they can be sure ad will be shown is by verifying a known adhering to showing the ad software stack.
Well EU says that is not allowed, because privacy. Ergo the adblocker prevention is playing a losing battle. Whatever they do on the “make sure ad is shown” side, adblocker maker will just implement counter move.
Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 11 months ago
So then Google just refuses to play the video until the appropriate time expires. Or they embed it in the video feed itself. There are more ways around this than you’re making there out to be.
Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
bro just solved the ad blocker problem! google needs to hire this man!!
BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Personally, I’d prefer waiting 15s to start the video than watching 15s of ad before atching the video, ads have been proven to have an effect on your brain that’s why they keep showing them to you. It’s not about the delay in video watching, it’s about the ad itself.
PurplePropagule@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Twitch seems to have figured out adblock blocking. Any idea what they’re doing that’s different?
Spotlight7573@lemmy.world 11 months ago
From my understanding, they embed the ad in the video stream itself so that it’s indistinguishable from the actual content. I imagine Google could serve ads from the same servers that serve videos and integrate them in a way that would be hard to detect, just like Twitch.
dditty@lemm.ee 11 months ago
There are ways to get Twitch adblock as well. I use PurpleTV
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Your car comment makes me think of Googles new DRM protocol, and then about Ken Thompsons compiler hack, combined with most DRM get hacked eventually.
This gives me hope that even if Googles DRM becomes standard, it will be hacked and YouTube thinks it’s showing ads on a unmodified signed page, but I am not seeing any ads.
hiddengoat@kbin.social 11 months ago
It can load into my pihole and they can shove it up a different hole.
Tavarin@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Good, make them jump through that hoop and respect user privacy.
Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s not even a hoop. It’s a slight side step. And they wouldn’t be breaking anymore of your privacy. They’d still know you’re not loading ads.
Tavarin@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
But they wouldn’t know how, or with what software. That is indeed protecting one’s privacy.