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• hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I disagree.

  Both sides are bad, no matter who is currently the aggressor.

  Now because there is aggression, the aggressor has an obligation to stop it, and we have an obligation to force a stop in the conflict as well. But that doesn’t make the other party less Bad in this. Both sides killed a lot of innocent people, both have inhumane ulterior motives and both are supporting further escalation. But ofc if there’s only one party doing the fighting, then that’s the party that acutely needs to be stopped.

  This distinction is very important to me, because you are not suddenly the good guy because you stopped killing civilians. You are just not actively doing war crimes which means we don’t have to intervene because of you anymore, which is at least one less reason. But you are not holy because “this year it was only 300 war crimes”.

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  • LordGimp@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Both have inhuman ulterior motives”

    Palestine wants to be free

    Israel wants to genocide Palestine and live in their homes

    Yes I can see how wanting liberty and self governance is exactly the same as wanting more land for your historically landless people regardless of how many natives you have to kill. Completely balanced

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    • Bigmouse@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The attacks weren’t perpetrated by a free Palestinian people or some recognized advocacy group, but by an extremist wing of the Muslim Brotherhood that has been pushed by Israel for decades.

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      • man_in_space@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And the Palestinians vote them in.

        If White Southerners are responsible for the Civil War, the Palestinian people bear responsibility for choosing a genocidal majority.

        My sympathy for the Palestinians only goes so far—it ends with their ballot box.

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    • man_in_space@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Palestine voted Hamas, whose founding documents are dripping with antisemitism (they cite The Protocols of the Elders of Zion which isn’t so much a dogwhistle as it is a klaxon), into power.

      If you’re a democracy, you’re responsible for whom you vote in.

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      • LordGimp@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lmfao that hasn’t been true since Athens invented democracy. Alcibiades was elected plenty and still turned traitor. The average Palestinian doesn’t support Hamas, but they’re not going to denounce one of the few factions actually fighting towards their goals. Get Israel out of Palestine and

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  • dumdum666@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But ofc if there’s only one party doing the fighting, then that’s the party that acutely needs to be stopped.

    Hamas never stopped fighting and they still have about 200 hostages. What makes you think that the IDF would stop fighting now?

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