Comment on Google has sent internet into ‘spiral of decline’, claims DeepMind co-founder

• Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lots of services are both paid and still show ads. Like cable TV

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And Microsoft Windows.

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• WoahWoah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Exactly. The simple fact is, people need to get more willing to pay for things with money instead of personal data. Nothing is free, but we like the idea that things don’t cost money, and instead we’ve allowed corporations to literally buy and monetize our very selves.

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  • ThePenitentOne@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Problem is, a lot of people don't have a lot of money because of how the world has been allowed to go. Everything is funnelled towards the worst people who go unpunished somehow.

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• dlrht@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just curious, in the hypothetical situation that 100% of users on the web used Kagi how is it any different? They’ll demand more growth at that point but how would they achieve it?

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  • Chunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well, if your argument is: “any company that becomes a monopoly will abuse monopoly power”, then sure I agree with you. You got me there!

    My argument is: “given a reliable financial alternative to advertising, a company will be able to resist enshitification for a long time, as long as there is no absolute tyrannical monopoly.”

    I assumed the last part was implied and I’m sorry for the confusion!

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    • dlrht@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Makes sense, but yea it didn’t really answer the overall question of “if it hits peak market penetration how will it avoid going the Google route” since google also started with the same premise. I suppose the answer is hope it doesn’t become a monopoly

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      • SamBBMe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s also privately owned by one guy, so it doesn’t have to submit to investor pressure.

        Steam, for example, is basically a monopoly for PC game sales, but hasn’t enshittified because it is privately owned.

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