Comment on Google has sent internet into ‘spiral of decline’, claims DeepMind co-founder

• letsgo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Mmm, but what’s their plan to resist enshittification? After all, Google started out as “fundamentally different, user-centric.” What will Kagi do when their market penetration peaks and the business managers demand more growth?

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  • Chunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You have to pay for kagi so they are not incentivized to serve ads. They are incentivized to give you a good set of search results so you keep paying.

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    • Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Lots of services are both paid and still show ads. Like cable TV

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      • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        And Microsoft Windows.

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    • WoahWoah@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Exactly. The simple fact is, people need to get more willing to pay for things with money instead of personal data. Nothing is free, but we like the idea that things don’t cost money, and instead we’ve allowed corporations to literally buy and monetize our very selves.

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      • ThePenitentOne@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Problem is, a lot of people don't have a lot of money because of how the world has been allowed to go. Everything is funnelled towards the worst people who go unpunished somehow.

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    • dlrht@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Just curious, in the hypothetical situation that 100% of users on the web used Kagi how is it any different? They’ll demand more growth at that point but how would they achieve it?

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      • Chunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Well, if your argument is: “any company that becomes a monopoly will abuse monopoly power”, then sure I agree with you. You got me there!

        My argument is: “given a reliable financial alternative to advertising, a company will be able to resist enshitification for a long time, as long as there is no absolute tyrannical monopoly.”

        I assumed the last part was implied and I’m sorry for the confusion!

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  • grayman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They charge an assload to use their service.

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• NakedGardenGnome@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve used it this month a bit for the free 100 searches, but found it rather similar to my Google results. Can someone enlighten me in how they provide a better service?

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  • Sendbeer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I find the results to be cleaner and more relevant at least. With Kagi the relevant link is usually first or second link (like Google used to be) and the same search on Google I sometimes have to scroll down about 3-4 pages till I get to something relevant. Worse some of the ads Google is pushing to the top are misleading or completely contrary to what I’m looking for.

    Kagi allowing me to ban domains (bye bye pinterest) and boost others has also been pretty helpful.

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• grayman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  $5/mo

  … per person.

  Or $20 for 6 in your house. $240/yr for your family to use a search engine.

  I mean… Come on! There’s no way that’s under 95% profit.

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