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Nonameuser678@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

If you look at the history of Indigenous policy you’ll see that many versions of advisory bodies have been legislated only to eventually be removed. Plus the symbolic value of constitutional recognition can’t be understated. A tokenistic gesture, sure, but Australia is still the last settler colonial nation in the global north to recognise their First Peoples. For the sake of just the basic values of a modern nation we should at the very least recognise the people who were here first in our constitution.

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NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Aren't y'all in the southern hemisphere?

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- TheChurn@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Global North/South is a socio-economic and political grouping.
  
  Developed countries = global north
  Developing = global south
  
  It does originate in geography, as the vast majority of wealth and high-tech industry is in the geographic North, but countries like Aus and NZ also fit, despite being South of the equator.
  
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  - NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Ah. Thank you!
    
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  - Marsupial@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    And it’s such a ridiculous term.
    
    Just using developing/developed.
    
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- Nonameuser678@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yep but global north is a more appropriate way of saying ‘developed’ nations.
  
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  - Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    is a more appropriate way
    
    No it isn’t. It’s a silly less clear way. And it doesn’t add anything, because any judgment that might be implied by the use of the term “developed” or “developing” is still carried by the terms “global north” and “global south”, because the terms are nothing other than a euphemism for the same thing.
    
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    Nonameuser678@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I didn’t come up with these terms. That’s just what I was taught in an international development class. But you’re always welcome to publish your criticisms and contribute knowledge to this discussion if you feel that your expertise in this area is sufficient.
    
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- billytheid@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  it’s a silly way of saying undeveloped versus developed.
  
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  - Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    We are a developed nation.
    
    “First world” doesn’t mean developed, it means “NATO or NATO-ally during the Cold War”. So we are a first world nation. (2nd world being USSR and its allies, and 3rd world being unaligned nations.)
    
    We are a very democratic country. We’re not the best in this regard, but top 20 isn’t too bad.
    
    Our “backwards, absurdly outdated, colonialist constitution” has no bearing on whether or not we are a developed country. It’s a completely orthogonal issue, and is also specifically the subject of this discussion.
    
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    Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    “First world” doesn’t mean developed, it means “NATO or NATO-ally during the Cold War”. So we are a first world nation. (2nd world being USSR and its allies, and 3rd world being unaligned nations.)
    
    That’s not how it is used colloquially, though. Very few people using these terms in everyday discourse are referring to Cold War era definitions (or are even aware of them).
    
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