Comment on What kind of upbringing makes an incel?
Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 11 months agoYes!! Hear hear! That’s what I’m trying to say. Inclusivity is inclusive, you share the problems too.
I love this:
Men and women need to build a new ideal man.
Just beautifully put.
Hey if you have the time to spare, could you perhaps throw up some criticism of my OP? What am I saying wrong that people are misunderstanding me here?
I’d love to be able to express these ideas in a way that does not make people angry. I think they are important ideas to share.
bouh@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It is a difficult task, especially because some feminists absolutely do not want to hear anything about men if it’s not that they are rapists or privileged. They also theorised that men (no nuance made) will fight tooth and nails to keep their privileges.
It’s not all feminists obviously. But the idea lurks that it is a similar fight between proletariat vs capitalists.
Lgbt+ movement succeeded in aggregating and allying with the feminists. It was easy because they are indeed harassed by the patriarcal model even harder than women.
The problem is for white cis male to join the movement. It would almost be a betrayal to recognize anything to them, because they are the archtypical enemy.
The problem is that by painting all white cis males as the enemy, you don’t leave them a choice than to be your enemy.
I’m only a guy on Internet so I don’t know what the solution go this will be. What I imagine is that either some white cis males will finally be recognized as a different group than the fascist actually opposed to women or any other minority rights, or the feminist themselves focalise their hatred on the people who are actually fighting them.
The root of the problem imo is the focalisation on the white cis male. It’s mistaken because there are as many conservative women as those men, and it’s unrelated to skin color. We should call them for what they are imo: the Conservative, bourgeois and fascists. This way the incels and nice guys can be themselves and helped out of the fascists claws.