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What gets me is that the discourse around incels is forcibly centered on how they effect women, when it should be focussed on the societal problems that turned those men that way in the first place. But it’s not palettable to discuss the issue unless women are given the victimhood role.

It’s much like how every year funds raised for breast cancer research are an order of magnitude more than funds raised for prostate cancer research, even though more men die of it than women do of breast cancer. Both are worthy of funding, but they’re certainly not treated equally.

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rosymind@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Would just like to point out the men can also get breast cancer:

www.cdc.gov/cancer/breast/men/index.htm

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- z00s@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Yes, but the rate is only 1% of all breast cancera diagnosed.
  
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  - rosymind@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Yes, that’s true. 1% is still a significant enough amount (accounting for how large the human is at present) that men benefit from the past breast cancer research as well.
    
    I’m just pointing out that it isn’t a disease that only affects women. I dated a guy back when I was 14 or so, whose uncle got breast cancer. He was all paranoid that he had it, too, because he had lumps in his chest. In his case they turned out to be beniegn
    
    I’d rather that men know there is a (small) risk, than ignore signs because they think that only women can die from it
    
    1% is the typical birthcontrol pill failure rate, and I know of at least 2 babies born into the world while her mother was using bc pills
    
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    z00s@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I’d rather that money is apportioned to finding cures for diseases based on how many people they kill, not by which gender it effects the most.
    
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eatthecake@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Men not getting the sex they feel entitled to is not a societal problem. It’s a male problem. Noone is entitled to sex and men need to learn that.

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- z00s@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  You’re confusing cause and effect, but I suspect you already know that due to your gross generalisation.
  
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- burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I don’t understand your point but prostitution is legal in some places.
  
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  - eatthecake@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The mens issue being talked about is involuntary celibacy and that is not feminists problem to solve. Nor should sex workers have to deal with misogynists.
    
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    burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Men’s issues and women’s issues are problems for society to solve together. Feminists can do whatever they do. Doesn’t change anything.
    
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