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I don’t get why people like RCS in this context. It has the same problem as iMessage.

On Android you have to use Google Messages to get it. Third party apps don’t work with it because Google never opened it up to them. How common is RCS without Google Messages? Even on Samsung phones it goes via Google.

How common is iMessage without an Apple product?

Why does Google want them to use iMessage? Probably since the data would flow through them.

Same shiz, different company.

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monkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
RCS is just a standard, much like how SMS is just a standard. Google’s Messaging app is just one implementation of it, though it probably is the most popular in the US it is not the only one, nor is Google able to decide who cannot use it. Carriers typically have their own, though you may have recently heard that T-Mobile decided to switch over to Google’s.

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Zetta@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
As someone else said RCS is just the new global standard replacing SMS that apple does not want to support because it weakens their walled garden.

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pewnit@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
RCS is an open standard created by GSMA, not a Google product. Google and Samsung just have the most popular “flavours” of RCS

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zaph@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
It works on Textra just fine

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- primarybelief@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Wait, since when does Textra have RCS support?
  
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  - zaph@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Beats me someone liked a text I sent them a few days ago and I realized I could give their’s emoji responses too.
    
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    Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    That does not mean that Textra supports RCS at all. It does not. It just supports text reactions with other Textra users.
    
    old.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/…/iensamw/
    
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Fog0555@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Samsung Messages supports RCS if carrier enables it: androidcentral.com/how-set-rcs-chat-samsung-phone…

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flop_leash_973@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Because most people don’t really understand the specifics of what they are railing against and/or arguing for. They just read “big bad Apple is being eViL” and get on the complaint train without really understanding what they are advocating for.

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- undnocheiner@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  You used a lot of words, just too say that you don’t know what you are talking about.
  
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  - flop_leash_973@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Well then go on, why am I wrong? Or do you just not like my opinion and are grasping at straws to make you feel better?
    
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    pewnit@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    RCS is an open standard created by GSMA. That’s why you’re wrong.
    
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ultratiem@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
That’s why Apple has been cagey about the whole thing. It’s Google’s tech. Their patents. Their way. Of course they are going to weaponize it because that’s where we are with software these days.

The answer isn’t RCS and Apple knows it. It’s trading iMessage for a merger with gMessage, a hybrid of the two with Apple losing half of its control. For a pretty meek gain.

The answer is to come up with an open standard that all messaging apps adopt and build on. So we can eventually move away from shitty SMS. Neither Google, or Apple should control the framework.

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