IT isn’t developers. What is really needed is a developer on your team, or somebody who at least knows how to lead the effort. I’ve been that guy.
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OldFartPhil@lemm.ee 8 months agoAnother confirmation here. At my previous job, I was they guy who built Access databases and wrote VBA code… While not ideal, it was a very small business (less than 10 employees) and it was fit for purpose.
When I got a new job at a company with almost 3,000 employees, I was like, “Finally, I’ll be working somewhere that has proper IT resources.” Ha! I soon find out that my department runs critical business infrastructure with Excel macros. And we have a proper IT department.
As everyone has already said, if IT resources are in short supply (or the wait is too long, or building projects with IT support is a PITA), then people will build systems with the tools they have at hand. And that’s often MS Office.
knobbysideup@lemm.ee 8 months ago
OldFartPhil@lemm.ee 8 months ago
We do have developers on our team. They write Excel macros :). I work in data integration, so it isn’t as simple as building a more robust tool. We still need infrastructure support or our tool doesn’t do anything.
Melkath@kbin.social 8 months ago
Please at least tell me that the Macros are just a front end for ODBC connections to actual SQL servers for ETL functions, and it ALL isn't stored only in excel...?
OldFartPhil@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It’s not that bad, the macros are just front end apps. Our data is housed in a real, enterprise class database.
Melkath@kbin.social 8 months ago
Also remember, strictly speaking, IT is not software development. IT is networking and hardware management.
Software development (and scoff all you want, but VBS/VBA are programming languages/frameworks used to develop software applications) is its own separate beast.
The MAY report to the CIO. They could also report to the COO. Fuck, software development/process automation/business intelligence can have a director reporting directly to the CEO.
In general, software development and information technology are not the same and don't reside in the same chain of command.
HumbertTetere@feddit.de 8 months ago
Strictly speaking, information technology encompasses software dev as a subfield. Practically, a large software development at a company has very different needs and strategic goals than what people usually understand as the “IT guys” so what you mentioned. So they are set up accordingly in an organisation.
aev@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
With some of my smaller clients, the CIO is the same as the CTO and the same as the IT Director. There, IT is developers, too.