Its also just totally a false equivalency. Lets entertain for a moment the fact that Peta is an imperfect organization that doesnât always do the right thing. Okay and? The industry they protest exploits not just animals, but Children and Workers. Its carbon footprint is playing an instrumental role in destroying the biosphere. But sure, PETA is imperfect so I guess weâll all just keep eating meat.
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wafflez@lemmy.world â¨1⊠â¨year⊠agosmirk@sh.itjustworks " in case the textbook anti-PETA rhetoric comes into the threadâŚ
This is why people hate PETA.
Yes, PETA does some crazy shit, but as with many things there are two sides to the story which is difficult to see when you get bombarded by anti-PETA stuff as is common on e.g. Reddit.
Anti-PETA efforts by the meat industry:
Sites like www.petakillsanimals.com are run by the Center for Organizational Research and Education, which is a lobbying platform for the fast food, meat, alcohol and tobacco industries. They also target the humane society, even John Oliver did a piece on them and their founder Richard Berman. Thatâs just one outlet for their misinformation-campains, they are also cited in lots of blogs and ânews articlesâ as well, so itâs not always very obvious.
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They are the driving power behind all the misinformation and PETA-hate that is spread around. PETA is actually doing a lot for animal rights, thatâs why they are such a big target for smear campaigns:
[Their biggest victories] (https://www.peta.org/about-peta/milestones/) [All victories sorted by recent] (https://www.peta.org/about-peta/victories/) (several per week!) See also http://www.petakillsanimalsscam.com/
PETA and their kill-shelters:
PETA kills animals because unfortunately there are no better places for them. Blame the puppy mills and irresponsible short term owners that give up their pets a few days or weeks after getting them because they had no idea what they got themselves into. Those people create more pets than there are places for them, so instead of having them become strays and further add to the problem, PETA put down those they canât adopt out. Because PETA accepts all animals, even those that other shelters turn away in order to not sully their adoption numbers, PETA shelters end up with many more âhopelessâ animals. See more here.
The case of the mistaken dog (and how PETA doesnât steal and murder pets):
A farmer asked PETA to euthanise a pack of stray dogs that were aggressive and violent towards the farmerâs cows. Upon arrival, PETA found the pack of stray dogs, took them to the shelter and put them down, as a free service. Unfortunately it turned out, that one of the presumed stray dogs was a pet-chihuaha called Maya, that was not sitting on the porch, as often claimed, but running freely with the stray pack, without leash or collar or supervision. PETA fucked up, because they didnât wait the 5 day grace period to give the owners time to look for and collect their pet. Thatâs why they had to pay a fine and apologized for it. www.whypetaeuthanizes.com/maya.html
The monkey selfie:
The monkey took the picture himself btw, the photographer just left the camera lying around. I am not saying the monkey should be copyright holder and itâs an open-shut case, but it does raise the question about the photographer having ownership over something that was voluntarily and independently created by an animal. What if a painter would leave his brushes lying around and an animal would create a painting? The artist actually sees it the same way and settled for a compromise with PETA followed by a joint statement. This was a landmark case in copyright law.
PETA equating milk to racism:
White supremacists actually use milk to demonstrate their superiority over âinferiorâ (their words, obviously) lactose intolerant ethnicities. Thatâs the reason behind their campaign on the issue.
Final thoughts (I promise):
PETA does a good job at raising issues and are one of the most successfull organisations to fight for animal rights. The granting of rights is the only real way to protect animals from unneccessary cruelty. Animal welfare will always be arbitrary, both in what species are worthy of protection, and the extent of protection they are worthy of. You cannot consider yourself an animal lover without recognizing the importance of that.
Sometimes PETA (intentionally?) overshoot, that happens when you try to move the border of current perceptions (i.e. animals are objects to be used for food, clothes, entertainment). I am not here to defend their tone or (lack of) tact, and there are a number of (sometimes downright stupid) PETA-campaigns I disagree with. Iâm not trying to convice you to become their friend, but at least judge them for what they are doing, not for what they are said to do.
Most of the criticism of PETA you read on Reddit comes straight from the mouths of the Center for Organizational Research and Education (CORE), formerly known as the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF). Itâs basically a corporate propaganda organization with donors like Tyson Foods, Wendyâs, and Coca-Cola. They also run campaigns claiming obesity isnât that major of a problem and that you can eat 10 times as much mercury from fish as experts recommend. The vast majority of the animals PETA euthanizes are suffering and are brought to PETAâs shelter by their owners specifically to be put out of their misery, but the CCF distorts that into âPETA is stealing peopleâs pets off the streetsâ and Reddit gobbles it up.
The media also knows that PETA is an easy target. Years ago I read an article in one of the British tabloids (the Sun or the Mirror) with a headline something like, âPETA blasts childâs bunny wedding!â But if you actually read the article, what happened is a kid dressed up some bunnies in wedding outfits, the âjournalistâ reached out to PETA and asked them to comment, and PETA said something like, âwe donât support dressing rabbits in costumes because it may be stressful for them.â And that was the end of the story, but that wouldnât get clicks so they distorted the headline to make it sound like PETA was protesting or attacking the kid on their own accord.
For the record, I think there are perfectly legitimate criticisms of PETA, like the sexist imagery they use in some of their ad campaigns and their welfarist (as opposed to abolitionist) approach to advocacy. It just gets to me that so many redditors claim to be rational and free-thinking but then read literal corporate propaganda about PETA and swallow it whole without a second thought.
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1simpletailer@startrek.website â¨1⊠â¨year⊠ago
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world â¨1⊠â¨year⊠ago
I donât do gish gallops, so Iâm just going to address this:
That is bullshit. There are no kill shelters all over the country. Thereâs one in my town. They didnât even euthanize after they were overwhelmed when we had a huge storm that destroyed structures. They just found people who would foster while they could rehome as much as they could. PETA doesnât do that.
Sotuanduso@lemm.ee â¨1⊠â¨year⊠ago
Today I learned what a Gish Gallop is.
Nicely done.