Comment on Samsung joins Google in RCS shaming Apple

• Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The simple fact that iMessage has 0 interoperability makes it much worse than everything else.

  So I doubt RCS could be as bad except if they remove the ability to operate with other RCS clients. And even for Google and Samsung that would be extremely stupid.

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  • glimpseintotheshit@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    At least it sends standard SMS to everyone without an iPhone. Wouldn’t call that 0 interoperability

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    • whofearsthenight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve just been googling a bit because I haven’t read about RCS in a while, but I remember thinking then that the show stopping thing is that it’s not E2E, and Apple would be dumb to move to since iMessage is. It seems now that E2E is supported but requires clients to support it, which tbh seems the worst of all worlds. At least today I know blue = encrypted, green = not encrypted. If it’s optional and we end up in a “is this encrypted? we’ll see ¯_(ツ)_/¯” type of world that is honestly terrible. I also don’t know how great it would be if you have to rely on the client vendor to accurately report encryption status because there are some I trust, and especially when it comes to “just download whatever RCS client you want” I absolutely would not trust that.

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      • ozymandias117@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        iMessage is only meaningfully E2E encrypted if both users have iCloud disabled or have gone into their iCloud settings and enabled “Advanced Data Protection”

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      • Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The RCS e2e extension is client controlled, the client app knows if it’s active

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  • Virkkunen@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    RCS is only interoperable with apps and carriers that adopt the Jibe protocol, so not much has changed.

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• spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Forgive me if I’m mistaken but did Signal adopt RCS? I they abandoned SMS for RC- if I recall - couldn’t SMS my friends on it anymore and abandoned ship lol

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  • foggenbooty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t know what you’re talking about. Signal does not use RCS and it is open source.

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  • neblem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    ASFAIK Signal doesn’t support RCS, only Signal protocol, after they dropped SMS.

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    • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This seems to be the mistake I made - thank you for clarifying :)

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