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Comment on Another 62 ‘Girls Do Porn’ Victims Sue Pornhub for $600 Million

WhyDoesntThisThingWork@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Many of these women did this continually. Read the article: it says they were told it wouldn’t be posted on online. These women were more than happy to have sex on on film for money, they are just unhappy others found out about it. That is breach of contract but it isn’t rape.

It says some of the women were violently abused which is totally fucked, that potentially is rape, but this suit includes both those groups and the difference is important. And the offenses are a world of difference between them.

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mosiacmango@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Firstly, Sex by misdirection is rape, flat out. If you agree to have sex with someone with a condom and take it off without their knowledge, you raped them.

Secondly, Youre glomming onto one detail and ignoring all the other tactics they used to coerce and rape these woman. They would fly them out to an unfamiliar city and then demand thousands in payments if they backed out. They would sometimes take nudes the threaten to send them to friends/family/etc. Other times, they used for e and violence.

The owners were not convicted because of a contract “trick.”

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- uranibaba@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Not sure if I would label uploading the videos after saying not to as rape, it feels more along the lines of mental torture but with a better word for it. I guess that rape is a form of torture at the end of day, so still the same?
  
  Secondly, youre glomming onto one detail and ignoring all the other tactics they used to coerce and rape these woman. They would fly them out to an unfamiliar city for “modeling jobs,” and then demand thousands in payments if they backed out of doing porn. They would sometimes take nudes “for the modeling contract” the threaten to send them to friends/family/etc if they didn’t do porn. Other times, they directly used force and violence, locking them in rooms to kidnap them, or forcing them to do sex acts they dodnt consent at all to, even under duress.
  
  This is rape.
  
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  - mosiacmango@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    The company lied about the public uploads, never used the company’s actual name, had fake “previous models” that vouched for the vidoes being private, and even had the cameraman say that he would never shoot “public” porn. They would lie to teh models about what was in the contracts, and never gave them copies. They also specifically targeted 18-20yr olds to mske sure the women were as naive as possbile.
    
    The founder also had a separate website that published most of the models real names publically.
    
    Coercing/lying/tricking/forcing someone into a type of sex that they otherwise would not have had willing is cut and dry rape.
    
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- phx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I’d say the condom thing is also because it raises the risk level considerably, not just because it was dishonest. It’s not just the act they didn’t consent to but the risk of unnoticed m unprotected sex.
  
  BUT, by that token the risk level of having your sex-acts put on the internet for potential millions to see - including family members, potential employers, etc - is still considerable. It can ruin lives in different but still very significant ways.
  
  These scum deserve to be stuffed in a cell.
  
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