Comment on Another 62 ‘Girls Do Porn’ Victims Sue Pornhub for $600 Million
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 11 months agoSince we’re discussing reasonable mitigation factors, when was the last time you got a new cellphone? And the time before that? Were they absolutely unable to be used? How about your clothes? Did you wear them til they’re threadbare, barely holding together? Coffee? Chocolate? You ever consume those from non-fair-trade sources?
It’s absolutely ridiculous to place the blame for all of those things on the consumer. You do your best, and you make Boise about the shit the manufacturers and producers do, in whatever way you can bear. I don’t care about what’s worse between rape and slavery, that’s a fuckin dumb discussion they both suck. Do your best to limit your impact, but know that your impact alone, and mine, and every other person in this threads, is MINIMAL. Form allies, and together we can deal with the actual problems.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Masturbating to a woman being sexually abused is not comparable with eating something unethically sourced. I’m not gaining gratification from witnessing the workers being abused. When you masturbate to a woman being sexually abused you are directly getting sexual gratification from sexual abuse. I don’t know what to tell you if you cannot understand how that is different from eating an unethically sourced food.
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
You’re literally gaining gratification from the abuse of people. Don’t deny it. We all fucking are. Make allies, and fight it.
It doesn’t matter that you witness it or not. What most people witness when. They watch porn is something they assume is above the table. There are laws that say you can’t rape and you can’t film certain things. It’s a pretty reasonable assumption that most pornography you’re going to find would follow those laws, otherwise it’d be taken down.
A critical look at the situation reveals this isnt the case. Porn is going to be produced to look as legit as possible. That deception keeps a lot of people from realizing the shit they’re watching is actually horrible. Why place the blame for the action on the person that was deceived, rather than the one doing the deceiving?
To tie it all back together, consumption as we know it today quite literally cannot be ethical. Everything we consume is brought about by abuse, either of people, or of the planet. I don’t see the point in making it the person lowest on the totem pole of suffering who should bear that sin. It’s on the people at the top, and we need to figure out how to set OUR differences aside and target the ones actually doing.
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
So then, in your view, masturbating to a woman being raped accidentally is an acceptable consequence of watching pornography?
Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Acceptable isn’t the word id use. I think every reasonable person would prefer if it never happened. But unless you want to make the argument of “all porn inherently bad” then I think it’s as much a reality as killing kids for your cellphone is.
Frankly I don’t want to engage with that argument, it’s a bit outside of the nuance level I think the Internet is capable of. But I’d that’s your position, at least you’re internally consistent on that one thing.